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  • Feb 16
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    Fever

    Put tax money in impoverished areas for social services

    Ik white people love to do this but with basketball courts for some stupid reason instead of actually helping but we can easily just do that at the bare minimum

    Any time a black neighborhood improves the black people are moved out and the white people move in. This is a terrible idea

  • Feb 16
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    UncMC

    To be as blunt as possible, how else are repatriations to be paid to the descendants of American slavery if theres no way to distinguish who from who

    That’s the only reason I’d co-sign any Ados agenda

    The thing is American slavery as a real network that went beyond the United States also. Not to mention slaves from the US also spread around when free or attempting to be free. There descendants of USA slaves throughout the Caribbean. I got cousins in Trinidad with ancestors from North Carolina

  • Shadow374

    The government doesnt care to differentiate bruh their racist😂😂

    This too tho. S*** this government will destroy itself before even attempting to pay niggas out

  • Feb 16
    AvenueJones

    The thing is American slavery as a real network that went beyond the United States also. Not to mention slaves from the US also spread around when free or attempting to be free. There descendants of USA slaves throughout the Caribbean. I got cousins in Trinidad with ancestors from North Carolina

    !!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Feb 16
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    AvenueJones

    The thing is American slavery as a real network that went beyond the United States also. Not to mention slaves from the US also spread around when free or attempting to be free. There descendants of USA slaves throughout the Caribbean. I got cousins in Trinidad with ancestors from North Carolina

    This another reason FBA is flimsy, like the Mascogo community of Mexico is literally descendants of African American slaves that fled into Mexico for safety (shoutout to them trill ass black presidents like Vincente )

    Is there like an artificial cut off or some sorts?

  • goretex

    i think also african americans specifically have been disrespected by everyone, even their disapora brothers and sisters for far too long

    and honestly, for what african americans have done vs how were treated, i don't judge someone for going insane FBA. do i think they bugging yes but also we as a people need more recognition on us having a culture (the most influential one on earth) and despite not knowing where we came from (even though at this point i 1000% consider america home and think its the country my people built because they did) we have been able to move mountains

    in reality this is all fueled by white people on twitter starting diaspora wars

    Respectfully I agree there has been disrespect towards Black Americans.. but it’s disrespect on both sides. Ask about the experiences of the first wave of Black immigrants from the Caribbean and Africa when they came here. Not even just stereotypes and school yard jokes. There was literal violence lol. S*** there was violence between the immigrants too and rivalry.

    Truth is when it comes to unity amongst the black community Atlarge s*** has been f***ed for the longest. And it was by design and embedded since slavery .

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    That being said I’m for people standing on their lineage, I’ve always been for celebrating the nuances throughout blackness because as much as we are all one we are all different. I hate that the conversation falls into mudslinging, name calling, and divisiveness.

    And also parroting of divisive rhetoric from grifters and niggas that do less for their community than those they target as “tethers” or whatever tf

  • And also I’m calling out all the goofy s*** I’ve heard pushed on Black Americans too. I can’t stand the fact we are all these years in our plight and we still have deal wit this type s***. It’s undeniable the impact black Americans have had all around the world.

    But we need to focus on the real enemy. The immigrant mother or father that travels to the states for a better opportunity doesn’t have the power for cultural erasure as some of the niggas on twitter claim.

  • Feb 16
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    AvenueJones

    The thing is American slavery as a real network that went beyond the United States also. Not to mention slaves from the US also spread around when free or attempting to be free. There descendants of USA slaves throughout the Caribbean. I got cousins in Trinidad with ancestors from North Carolina

    Liberia was founded by black Americans

  • Feb 16
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    Shadow374

    Liberia was founded by black Americans

    That’s a fact! We are more connected than divided. I’m not saying relations are all perfect tho. I’ve heard bullshit directed towards all sides. I remember being in school in the 2000s every one of us was doing the stereotypical African accent. I’ve heard some Africans and caribbeans speak down on Black Americans too truthfully I believe it as generation thing tho.

    Our generation and up it’s a lot less of that bullshit.

  • I just f*** wit everybody black. We are all over this world striving and expressing blackness. I’m sick of niggas finding new ways to pit each other against each other.

  • insertcoolnamehere

    This another reason FBA is flimsy, like the Mascogo community of Mexico is literally descendants of African American slaves that fled into Mexico for safety (shoutout to them trill ass black presidents like Vincente )

    Is there like an artificial cut off or some sorts?

    Niggas gotta remember all of the Americas was up for grabs. This whole continent was basically a trading post. But the US of course became such a super power due to exploitation

    But as of your question idk I’ve had this convo before and it’s been pointed out that after settling for hundred and hundreds of years there is supposedly an ethnogenesis that happens with these communities.

  • AvenueJones

    That’s a fact! We are more connected than divided. I’m not saying relations are all perfect tho. I’ve heard bullshit directed towards all sides. I remember being in school in the 2000s every one of us was doing the stereotypical African accent. I’ve heard some Africans and caribbeans speak down on Black Americans too truthfully I believe it as generation thing tho.

    Our generation and up it’s a lot less of that bullshit.

    My wife is Nigerian. My mother went to Africa all the time so ive always been tapped in. The main thing as black Americans we gotta understand is the fundamental difference with African culture. They grow up with their own specific tribal culture and are much more religious. Africans differ cause they dont have a culture of individualism like we grew up in

  • insertcoolnamehere

    @TUNDRAIV

    I hear and understand that. I still think it shouldn’t be divisive for BA to identify themselves whatever way they see fit. Like I said earlier, I do think there is some danger with just we’re all the same because clearly that’s not working anymore/hasn’t in some time.

  • Feb 17
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    Shadow374

    Any time a black neighborhood improves the black people are moved out and the white people move in. This is a terrible idea

    I said social services

  • Feb 17
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    Fever

    I said social services

    Wym by social services

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    Shadow374

    Wym by social services

    It would be dependent on the area. Maybe increased wic or ssi benefits, education funding, shelter funding, etc that is dictated by the statistics that show what would be most beneficial in these black dominant areas. Funding of certain research groups such as funding studies related to healthcare assistance/reach/etc or for therapy/trauma/education, housing assistance,etc. Maybe educational assistance for those meeting certain metrics. There's really no one size fits all when discussing social services for such specific areas when each one has its own needs. Even just research for all of this is an entire industry already related to sociology and anthropology.

    My city was already doing most of this before doge decided it's all government waste and shut most/all of it down as much as they could. There's a lot of educational assistance still around in my state for these areas at least, afaik. I'm friends with a guy who was pretty high up a ladder through the city/universities working on all of this specifically in relation to support for minorities out here and I'll be honest he knows more than me

  • Feb 17
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    It would be dependent on the area. Maybe increased wic or ssi benefits, education funding, shelter funding, etc that is dictated by the statistics that show what would be most beneficial in these black dominant areas. Funding of certain research groups such as funding studies related to healthcare assistance/reach/etc or for therapy/trauma/education, housing assistance,etc. Maybe educational assistance for those meeting certain metrics. There's really no one size fits all when discussing social services for such specific areas when each one has its own needs. Even just research for all of this is an entire industry already related to sociology and anthropology.

    My city was already doing most of this before doge decided it's all government waste and shut most/all of it down as much as they could. There's a lot of educational assistance still around in my state for these areas at least, afaik. I'm friends with a guy who was pretty high up a ladder through the city/universities working on all of this specifically in relation to support for minorities out here and I'll be honest he knows more than me

    None of this would really help black people or even be anywhere near the debt of reparations. Your basically just saying more funding to programs that already exist. Underselling what we are owed like this is disrespectful

  • Feb 17
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    Shadow374

    None of this would really help black people or even be anywhere near the debt of reparations. Your basically just saying more funding to programs that already exist. Underselling what we are owed like this is disrespectful

    This all helps those around me drastically. I live in one of these areas and work directly with this population. There isn't enough funding as it stands because people are barely surviving.

    Crazy thought, but funding services further actually helps more people.

  • Feb 17
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    Fever

    This all helps those around me drastically. I live in one of these areas and work directly with this population. There isn't enough funding as it stands because people are barely surviving.

    Crazy thought, but funding services further actually helps more people.

    Its not even about help its about a debt payed for hundreds of millions dead and even more lives ruined. I dont wanna hear that s***
    Stop with the democrat babble and pay black people their debt

  • Feb 17

    Obligatory "im not black" so feel free to ignore everything that comes next:

    I've spent a lot of time around FBA types and even more time trying to understand them. From what I've gathered, it does make sense at face value. A people that are so far removed, forcibly so, from their African roots would logically seek to root themselves in what they do know and have experienced, that being America and the pivotal role black people played in building it. Kinda like "No, I'm not African, I have no connection to Africa, but I do have a strong connection to America and have earned the right to be considered an American, not an African-American"

    Unfortunately, this often comes with a level of vitriol toward Africans and the concept of being African. It's a fear of/disdain for being othered. Of course, this in-fighting only serves to embolden white supremacy, but that's another can of worms.

    I will say though, the "we are the real indigenous people of America" type of FBAs are just batshit. You ask them to prove how native Americans were actually black people and they link you to an equally stupid guy on tiktok saying "look this picture of a native American shows they had big noses just like us, they must be black!" which is so close to a white supremacist talking point that it'd actually be funny if it wasn't so sad.

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    CrippGod

    Niggas want to be victims so bad.

    A fresh off the boat immigrant is definitely getting treated worse than any Black American, by BOTH Black Americans and White people.

    So explain the class disparity between Africans and Black Americans if they get treated worse... What negative stereotypes is a man with a Nigerian name associated with ???

    Africans excelling in America was one of the biggest arguments on making affirmative action illegal in court,

    The average kid with African parents grows up in a upper middle class suburban area that's just a fact you can never say they have it worse

  • Feb 17
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    all the walking on eggshells kumbaya discourse is cool but i still feel like the "we all Black" mantra is being misconstrued as if its a domestic response to Black people / self described FBAs meant to minimize their heritage when thats just largely not the case

    also this gon sound callous but like.. again, outside of yal legacy of contributions to this country - why is there still this intense and adamant desire to identify as ameriKkkan? i get the whole "nobody else fw us and we were dispossessed" angle but after centuries of systemic disenfranchisement and Fourth World conditions within the US.. it's giving stockholm. every people has the right to denominate theyself but that doesnt exempt u from critique. can yal not imagine a better name for how u wish to be seen and understood?

    the other elephant in the room is all this whining about being antagonized by caribbean / african immigrants while simultaneously denying those same communities have also been the subject of similar abuse ('bootyscratcher'), violence (Oluwatoyin Salau) and mass disinformation (its a reason people grow up thinking africa is a country of tumbleweeds with no infrastructure) from Black AmeriKkkans upon assimilating into this country. yes, the interconnected civil rights struggle made it possible for many to even seek a "better life" here BUT i find it really rich that the wealthiest population of African descent in the world who actively reap the material benefits (albeit minimal) of living in an imperial core, doesnt have the humility to understand that pride in deliberate association is also complicity.

  • nonBlacks havin the gall to click and comment itt

    cant help but give they unwarranted 2 cents

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