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  • Jun 21, 2021
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    SolidSnaku

    it definitely picked up steam after he hopped on it last year. but yeah hoteps been on that wave for a while now

    Hoteps think they’re Israelites & still have a limited perspective of the Bible. I’m not 100% sure that the Bible is about us “black ppl”. I’m not 100% sure of the context of that book or how much is metaphysical symbolism or recorded history.

    What I’m taking about, I didn’t get from Tariq Nasheed. Neither has anyone I study with..but I get what u saying. I’m more focused on Nationality..fixing our identity crisis & Studying the occult..so that we have a stronger foundation from which to build our lives around

  • Jun 21, 2021
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    Smacked Voodoo

    My assumption is that they don't wanna segregate the userbase by race, because then it'll only be a matter of time before more white users are on that "Well why can't we have our own private sxn!?" and that's when s*** just starts getting dumb as hell.

    Knowing S he probably don't even wanna deal with that headache, even though he likely totally understands why Black users would want a private sxn

    Another reason can simply be that there are more white and non-Black users on KTT than there are Black so they might feel that this Black Empowerment Thread is enough. It can be, if our space can be respected. Which unfortunately isn't the case all the time.

    i can understand that completely, but still there are so many weird and unnecessary private sxns on here that s might as well bite the bullet and do it already imo

  • Jun 21, 2021
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    rustcohlestan

    i can understand that completely, but still there are so many weird and unnecessary private sxns on here that s might as well bite the bullet and do it already imo

    I do agree with you forreal. Personally I feel like S might as well say f*** it because if you get white users who start complaining and demanding a "white only" sxn those users will very quickly expose themselves as very racist individuals who will likely only use that thread to be racist af. Any time I've gone online to see "white only" kinda forums or sites, like 80% of the time it's just white people being racist cause they can't be like that in the open.

  • Jun 21, 2021
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    Smacked Voodoo

    I do agree with you forreal. Personally I feel like S might as well say f*** it because if you get white users who start complaining and demanding a "white only" sxn those users will very quickly expose themselves as very racist individuals who will likely only use that thread to be racist af. Any time I've gone online to see "white only" kinda forums or sites, like 80% of the time it's just white people being racist cause they can't be like that in the open.

    A white only section is an absolutely horrible idea, and a black only one is just as horrible

    Just divides us with no benefit

  • Jun 21, 2021
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    Both sections would just perpetuate racism

  • Jun 21, 2021
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    Twist Your Cap

    A white only section is an absolutely horrible idea, and a black only one is just as horrible

    Just divides us with no benefit

    I disagree with both comments. Division is necessary. We may have different definitions of racism but black ktt isn't racist.

    Slurs have been used on the internet but actual racism nigga please.

  • Jun 22, 2021
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    Bestowed

    I disagree with both comments. Division is necessary. We may have different definitions of racism but black ktt isn't racist.

    Slurs have been used on the internet but actual racism nigga please.

    Division is a problem, we need to get to the point where we're all just people. That should be the goal

    Slurs are still not cool on either side

  • Jun 22, 2021
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    Dionne

    Whats funny is u think this is somehow embarrassing. Whats funny is that as time goes by..the truth is coming out & everyday more & more ppl that look like me are learning their history. U look like a fool & a dork trying to shame me with this..laughing with ur internet friend like u got me 😂

    You niggas need to stop trying to change where you come from. If anything, you alternative history niggas are playing right into people’s hands downplaying the effects of slavery and how brutal it was.

    Even if the American Indians were black, and we discussed it in your past thread, what exactly does it change with the history of black America? We were still in chatel slavery for 400 years. If anything, that makes it worst.

    White man came to your land, pacified our people, stole our resources and took it over and changed their history. Black folks are still lost and feeling the effects of that today. Black community is one big dysfunctional group so what exactly changes?

  • Jun 22, 2021

    So many posters here itt racist

    but honestly I think more centralized dialogue on similarities and the natural struggle will promote true power

    black people in America do not need to be babied, and have full agency in their lives.

  • Jun 22, 2021
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    Also, there are well documented cases of black indians, such as the seminoles or Wampanoag people but to downplay slavery and how brutal it was is foolish.

    Black folks world wide have had their history and accomplishments erased but that’s not the case when it comes to this. even if native Americans are black it doesn’t change a thing or what’s happening in America RIGHT NOW either.

  • Jun 22, 2021
    RX Nigerian Pastor

    Also, there are well documented cases of black indians, such as the seminoles or Wampanoag people but to downplay slavery and how brutal it was is foolish.

    Black folks world wide have had their history and accomplishments erased but that’s not the case when it comes to this. even if native Americans are black it doesn’t change a thing or what’s happening in America RIGHT NOW either.

    There are black Indians;

    There are a few tribes that have intermarriage because of the slave trade I can vouch for that.

  • Jun 22, 2021
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    Twist Your Cap

    Division is a problem, we need to get to the point where we're all just people. That should be the goal

    Slurs are still not cool on either side

    Division is necessary. The only time when someone can truly get to know who they are is through self examination.

    There is no 'we' until blacks have stability first.

    A major issue with modern black society is that it has adopted a we mindset. We meaning inclusion of the melting pot.

    Every nation works best when there's an established culture, spiritual practice, monetary system, businesses, education, wealth, art, architecture, resources etc. Blacks of the Western Diaspora aren't a nation unto ourselves. No matter the size of the crumb, we're working for another mans wealth. It would be different if we had our own dollar, pounds, sheckel, yuan, crypto, etc. then other nations work with us then we could mutually build the world together.

    Blacks aren't a democracy, that's not our culture. That's a Greco-Roman ideal. From my studies, we're a Monarchy by nature with core B1 socialist values. Helping the lesser out because it benefits the Body.

    Until the body that is Black America is strengthened and can stand on its own, walk on its own, think for itself, lead and live on its own, there is no we. If there is a we, it should be established that We as this matured immaculate black body, don't need to be dependent on another man's success and resources.

  • Jun 22, 2021
    RX Nigerian Pastor

    You niggas need to stop trying to change where you come from. If anything, you alternative history niggas are playing right into people’s hands downplaying the effects of slavery and how brutal it was.

    Even if the American Indians were black, and we discussed it in your past thread, what exactly does it change with the history of black America? We were still in chatel slavery for 400 years. If anything, that makes it worst.

    White man came to your land, pacified our people, stole our resources and took it over and changed their history. Black folks are still lost and feeling the effects of that today. Black community is one big dysfunctional group so what exactly changes?

    “Black Americans” are a mixture of peoples from the equator zones, Europe, the Americas, Asia/Africa (wasnt called Africa) that’s not alternative history. That’s mainline science. Everyone knows this. That’s why the whole world is still majority darkskin.

    Darkskin ppl have the highest percentage of O-Blood type by demographic. And “black Americans”, Jamaicans, ppl from Africa, “Afrocubans” coincidentally have the majority O-Blood type. Just like every other aboriginal on Earth. Having a lot of melanin is natural. Even plants have high melanin. We’re natural ppl. Common sense. That’s not new information.

  • Jun 22, 2021
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    U still think white people did everything. U have more history to check out @Doubledawg227 the conquistadors were copper colored & mixed. What is a 5’5 frail white man going to do to a 6’4 man who has guns too? Only thing white ppl did was come in after the dust was settled & set up shop. They did almost none of the dirty work of the 1100s to 1800s. How could they? Most of them were slaves or Eunuchs to the Barbary States & Monarchs. They couldn’t do a damn thing but take orders until very recently

  • Jun 22, 2021
    Bestowed

    Division is necessary. The only time when someone can truly get to know who they are is through self examination.

    There is no 'we' until blacks have stability first.

    A major issue with modern black society is that it has adopted a we mindset. We meaning inclusion of the melting pot.

    Every nation works best when there's an established culture, spiritual practice, monetary system, businesses, education, wealth, art, architecture, resources etc. Blacks of the Western Diaspora aren't a nation unto ourselves. No matter the size of the crumb, we're working for another mans wealth. It would be different if we had our own dollar, pounds, sheckel, yuan, crypto, etc. then other nations work with us then we could mutually build the world together.

    Blacks aren't a democracy, that's not our culture. That's a Greco-Roman ideal. From my studies, we're a Monarchy by nature with core B1 socialist values. Helping the lesser out because it benefits the Body.

    Until the body that is Black America is strengthened and can stand on its own, walk on its own, think for itself, lead and live on its own, there is no we. If there is a we, it should be established that We as this matured immaculate black body, don't need to be dependent on another man's success and resources.

    This whole post is a cope.

  • Jun 22, 2021
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    Dionne

    U still think white people did everything. U have more history to check out @Doubledawg227 the conquistadors were copper colored & mixed. What is a 5’5 frail white man going to do to a 6’4 man who has guns too? Only thing white ppl did was come in after the dust was settled & set up shop. They did almost none of the dirty work of the 1100s to 1800s. How could they? Most of them were slaves or Eunuchs to the Barbary States & Monarchs. They couldn’t do a damn thing but take orders until very recently

    I mean Indo-Europeans pop up in the 1400-1500s;

    You see similar structure for example in Ethiopian and European Cultures around that time.

    I’m not exactly sure on the color of all conquistadors from a Spanish perspective, but yeah they had to be a spectrum because it was a mixed force to begin with:
    So assuming the base was Iberian, there had to be other Mediterranean and North African peoples there as well.

  • Jun 22, 2021
    yenowa

    I mean Indo-Europeans pop up in the 1400-1500s;

    You see similar structure for example in Ethiopian and European Cultures around that time.

    I’m not exactly sure on the color of all conquistadors from a Spanish perspective, but yeah they had to be a spectrum because it was a mixed force to begin with:
    So assuming the base was Iberian, there had to be other Mediterranean and North African peoples there as well.

    Yes. It seems as if we are the first generations to separate based on color. It looks like it was more of a bloodline type of thing that ppl focused on back then. Yep. Indo-Europeans w/ the British kicked the pale down the road too with their caste system & armed commodity corporations. I forgot to mention them.

    The problem with Modern names for places like Spain, China, Europe, India, etc..they meant something different back in those times. For example I learned there were actually 3 Indias & 3 Ethiopias that medieval texts would refer to. We hear those names in present day & think all Europeans are pale skinned & all Africans are darkskinned copper colored..cuz of school. Got us all confused. We lost the plot

  • Dionne

    U still think white people did everything. U have more history to check out @Doubledawg227 the conquistadors were copper colored & mixed. What is a 5’5 frail white man going to do to a 6’4 man who has guns too? Only thing white ppl did was come in after the dust was settled & set up shop. They did almost none of the dirty work of the 1100s to 1800s. How could they? Most of them were slaves or Eunuchs to the Barbary States & Monarchs. They couldn’t do a damn thing but take orders until very recently

    Listen dude, I’m well aware of everything that those of African descent have accomplished worldwide. Hell, I probably know our real history than the rest of you ktt niggas and I’ve posted on here before for you dudes not to be ashamed of where you come from. Or to be more aware of actual African American history.

    en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mali_Empire

    Also, the mansa who was before Mansa Musa, his uncle Abu Bakr II abdicated his thrown to Mansa Musa and went to try to find land to the west.

    en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Kush

    Undeniably black successor of Egypt

    en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Aksum

    Played an important route between the commercial trade routes from Rome and had extensive contact with them, the Indians..etc

    That’s a little small part of our history

  • Jun 22, 2021
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    @Dionne the real problem is you niggas who were told you never accomplished nothing but slavery, which is basically what black America and the descendants of slavery are taught. That Your history is nothing but slavery. That’s a way to pacify you and keep you ignorant, and honestly it works. Most of you niggas don’t have a damn clue. So when you start to learn something about history you got hotep fools telling you all this that you did and you negros cling to it because you have no idea about what people accomplished on your land or even in the Americas. Learn your real history. It’s rich and full of accomplishments that other black people aren’t aware of as well. I commend you for learning and trying to seek out knowledge tho

    Now you never answered my question: if the American Indians were black what exactly does it change for black Americans right now? We are still a dysfunctional group with almost no wealth, so what exactly changes? Nothing

  • Jun 22, 2021

    👀

    at least the conversation in this thread has gotten better from ktt lmao

  • Jun 25, 2021
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    tampa is 26% black

  • Jun 26, 2021

    @Doubledawg227 what do people mean when they title someone as a "hotep"?

  • Jun 26, 2021
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    Who are some painters and artists to check out?

  • Jun 26, 2021
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    Any good books on gov structures? Agriculture as well.