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  • Jul 27, 2022
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    Sir Swagalot

    that Sagittarius album is really underrated, i'm glad you got that one. are any of your records first pressings or in mono?

    Have you heard the bonus tracks? One of the all time transcendent psychedelic soundscapes

    @twinkletoez @Aruji

  • Jul 27, 2022
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    Elric

    Have you heard the bonus tracks? One of the all time transcendent psychedelic soundscapes

    !https://youtu.be/WQM7KRVJKgk

    @twinkletoez @Aruji

    nah i havent i'll listen rn

  • rvi ๐Ÿฆœ
    Jul 27, 2022
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    Elric

    Sundazed LP 5460 2013

    uh oh apparently there was a controversy about that

    "In short, the Sundazed turned out to be intricate patchjob from a poor mono needledrop and a folded stereo source. When confronted with evidence, label owner Bob Irwin angrily denounced it but felt compelled to admit he had used patches from another source on the intros. However, he then changed his stance on what these alternative sources were two times, before deleting his message altogether.

    According to the liner notes on the 1999 Buddha reissue, the mono masters weren't in the vaults in the late 90's. It is well-known that a lot of monaural mastertapes were simply thrown out back in the 70's to save some storage space. Now of course, the average consumer definitely prefers a tape sourced remastered edition over one that comes from vinyl, but falsely advertising one's product as something it isn't (namely, a true mono mix sourced from a tape) is much worse."

    only rememnbering this since i had a note mine was from this version, an original '67 mono vinyl rip profstoned.com/2017/06/captain-beefheart-safe-as-milk-1967.html

  • Jul 27, 2022
    Sir Swagalot

    nah i havent i'll listen rn

    Omg

  • rvi ๐Ÿฆœ
    Jul 27, 2022
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    Elric

    Have you heard the bonus tracks? One of the all time transcendent psychedelic soundscapes

    !https://youtu.be/WQM7KRVJKgk

    @twinkletoez @Aruji

    one of the all time most confusion ive had over one of your faves

  • Jul 27, 2022
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    rvi

    one of the all time most confusion ive had over one of your faves

    I do a lot more psychedelics than you

  • rvi ๐Ÿฆœ
    Jul 27, 2022
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    Elric

    I do a lot more psychedelics than you

    dont care, pretty sure you never even did lsd itself until a few years ago so

    (i havent done anything in 5+ years tho atp)

  • Jul 27, 2022
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    rvi

    uh oh apparently there was a controversy about that

    "In short, the Sundazed turned out to be intricate patchjob from a poor mono needledrop and a folded stereo source. When confronted with evidence, label owner Bob Irwin angrily denounced it but felt compelled to admit he had used patches from another source on the intros. However, he then changed his stance on what these alternative sources were two times, before deleting his message altogether.

    According to the liner notes on the 1999 Buddha reissue, the mono masters weren't in the vaults in the late 90's. It is well-known that a lot of monaural mastertapes were simply thrown out back in the 70's to save some storage space. Now of course, the average consumer definitely prefers a tape sourced remastered edition over one that comes from vinyl, but falsely advertising one's product as something it isn't (namely, a true mono mix sourced from a tape) is much worse."

    only rememnbering this since i had a note mine was from this version, an original '67 mono vinyl rip http://www.profstoned.com/2017/06/captain-beefheart-safe-as-milk-1967.html

    That explains why I'm not sold at all. I'll definitely give it to you for changing my mind on my aoty for '66 but I'm glad that I acclimated to the stereo version of this tbh.

  • Jul 27, 2022
    rvi

    dont care, pretty sure you never even did lsd itself until a few years ago so

    (i havent done anything in 5+ years tho atp)

    LSD is derived from spores same family as the shrooms I weaned myself on

  • Jul 27, 2022
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    Elric

    Have you heard the bonus tracks? One of the all time transcendent psychedelic soundscapes

    !https://youtu.be/WQM7KRVJKgk

    @twinkletoez @Aruji

    this makes me feel like im at a church sermon and everybody is on acid i love it

  • Jul 27, 2022
    Sir Swagalot

    this makes me feel like im at a church sermon and everybody is on acid i love it

    You get it

  • rvi ๐Ÿฆœ
    Jul 27, 2022
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    Elric

    That explains why I'm not sold at all. I'll definitely give it to you for changing my mind on my aoty for '66 but I'm glad that I acclimated to the stereo version of this tbh.

    cant remember if I ever listened to that Sundazed mono resissue so im not sure if even sounds as bad as all the butthurt Steve Hoffman people said. i can send you my mp3s if you want since that guy on blogspot only links it in his flac and idk if you convert that or want it

    what did i change your mind on aoty 66 from was blonde on blonde before elevators right?

  • Jul 27, 2022
    rvi

    cant remember if I ever listened to that Sundazed mono resissue so im not sure if even sounds as bad as all the butthurt Steve Hoffman people said. i can send you my mp3s if you want since that guy on blogspot only links it in his flac and idk if you convert that or want it

    what did i change your mind on aoty 66 from was blonde on blonde before elevators right?

    Just Elevators

  • rvi ๐Ÿฆœ
    Jul 27, 2022
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    @Elric thoughts on Beefheart's Mirror Man? recorded in '67 so relevant

    i need to give a few more listens ngl i dont think i even gave it 10. i just remember you liking some of those bonus like the Safe as Milk title track

  • Jul 27, 2022
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    The theremin gets so neutered on Autumn's Child one of my top ten psych jams

  • rvi ๐Ÿฆœ
    Jul 27, 2022
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    Elric

    The theremin gets so neutered on Autumn's Child one of my top ten psych jams

    judging it based on the fraud mix?

  • rvi ๐Ÿฆœ
    Jul 27, 2022
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    Elric

    The theremin gets so neutered on Autumn's Child one of my top ten psych jams

    apparently thats the reissues big offender

    "I was planning on going through the songs in order, but Autumn's Child stands out. Whereas most of the songs seem to be from a mono source (likely needledrop) but with small bits of a stereo fold-down edited on, Autumn's Child is the opposite. It seems the entire song is a fold-down, except the small breaks throughout the song. When playing the Sundazed and mono LP side by side, there are small differences (level and reverb) evident throughout the song, except in those sections, which match exactly. On the flip side, when comparing the Sundazed to the stereo mix (after adjusting the speed of the stereo to match), they match exactly, except for those small sections.

    Note how the Sundazed has 5 sections clearly edited in: those are from the mono mix. The reason being that on the stereo mix, the theremin (?) continues through most of those small breaks, while on the mono mix it is faded out each time. Also note that's just the end of the song; I zoomed in on that section for clarity. But throughout the course of the song, there are at least 15 such edit pieces."

  • Jul 27, 2022
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    rvi

    judging it based on the fraud mix?

    Yes I am referring to the fraud mix the full potency of the theremin's tone isn't even remotely hitting and it makes the song

  • rvi ๐Ÿฆœ
    Jul 27, 2022
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    Elric

    Yes I am referring to the fraud mix the full potency of the theremin's tone isn't even remotely hitting and it makes the song

    ill dl the fraud mix of it to compare but checking rn the theremin sounds great to me in the mono Autumns Child

  • Jul 27, 2022
    rvi

    apparently thats the reissues big offender

    "I was planning on going through the songs in order, but Autumn's Child stands out. Whereas most of the songs seem to be from a mono source (likely needledrop) but with small bits of a stereo fold-down edited on, Autumn's Child is the opposite. It seems the entire song is a fold-down, except the small breaks throughout the song. When playing the Sundazed and mono LP side by side, there are small differences (level and reverb) evident throughout the song, except in those sections, which match exactly. On the flip side, when comparing the Sundazed to the stereo mix (after adjusting the speed of the stereo to match), they match exactly, except for those small sections.

    Note how the Sundazed has 5 sections clearly edited in: those are from the mono mix. The reason being that on the stereo mix, the theremin (?) continues through most of those small breaks, while on the mono mix it is faded out each time. Also note that's just the end of the song; I zoomed in on that section for clarity. But throughout the course of the song, there are at least 15 such edit pieces."

    Exactly blasphemous

  • Jul 27, 2022
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    rvi

    ill dl the fraud mix of it to compare but checking rn the theremin sounds great to me in the mono Autumns Child

    Welp send it to me I guess but that's just going to make 1967 take a little longer

  • Jul 27, 2022
    rvi

    @Elric thoughts on Beefheart's Mirror Man? recorded in '67 so relevant

    i need to give a few more listens ngl i dont think i even gave it 10. i just remember you liking some of those bonus like the Safe as Milk title track

    Ah right I'll check that one out again too

  • rvi ๐Ÿฆœ
    Jul 27, 2022
    Elric

    Welp send it to me I guess but that's just going to make 1967 take a little longer

    checc pm

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  • Jul 27, 2022
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    I'm getting ahead of myself, but i was listening to 'Long, Long, Long' by The Beatles (Harrison penned track) this morning which came out a year later, and it kind of gets lost in the shuffle when discussing the best tracks from latter side of The Beatles' run.

    It also shares a similar melody to Sad-Eyed Lady Of The Lowlands which dropped 2 years prior and Harrison and Dylan developed a friendship whilst Bob was chilling and stepped away from the limelight following his motorcycle accident, so it's a bit more of a concidence and i ain't got my tinfoil headgear on for that take ๐Ÿ˜…

    Harrison really had some variety when it came to the subject matter of his tracks that made the cut for The White Album:

    While My Guitar Gently Weeps is pure piff and Clapton slapped with his guitar solo, and I ain't a big Clapton head.

    Piggies ๐Ÿท

    Long, Long, Long beautiful melody, heartfelt vocal performance, production is on deck ๐ŸคŒ

    Savoy Truffle ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅ George just listing off a food menu while flexing on his sweet tooth and that production

  • Jul 27, 2022
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    Wait...all this talk about '68 Beatles when George dropped one of the hardest tracks of the current year of discussion in this thread.

    I didn't really rate it as a teenager, but i've grown more fond over time. I think witnessing and appreciating the growth and development of Harrison's songwriting is one of the dopest aspects of being a Beatleshead. I was so harsh on Rubber Soul the other day, and was rightfully checked by more level-headed music cats on here