Idk the thing about SS, even though jay and the label made him chase hits, it was still probably good for him overall. He said the same on his podcast it helped him learn how to make songs besides just rapping which lead to FHD.

But I think they should of left it at the main singles (workout, can't get enough, nobody perfect) and not overdo it with some of the other songs on there

I remember Cruel Summer era Kanye was bigging up Sean so much it hurt to hear that but kanye was in his feelings so much during that donda era

Great so he has firsthand experience now knowing that all he did still wasn't enough because nobody cares about any of those artists, so I'm asking again what was Jay supposed to do for him?
I wish niggas would stop thinking that there's some type of special button you push to make someone hot and face reality instead, at the end of the day it's up to every artist individually to achieve what they're trying to achieve

damn this is f***ed up lowkey

I think it's easy to say that in hindsight, but the hits he got was a big reason why he was able to build his fanbase to the point where he could make the songs he truly wanted to make, while still having a big impact.

We were just in that Tyler thread talking about him being lit outside and in the clubs early and SS was a huge reason why. We've seen artists with a lot of heart like Cole whose careers didn't pan out like we thought they would cause they couldn't cross over at the time (Big Krit)

Ye gave Sean looks he had no business being anywhere near enough with the pity for this guy

Ye hates Sean cause he realized hes actually garbage like 2 albums into his deal lmao

Cole needs more hits

Even for me being “in the club” wasn’t what made Cole lit

It’s him being the soundtrack for athletes an college students, and giving people something different than what all the hit chasers were giving

Even with the “hits” Cole had, he was still only projected to hit 90k

He hit 200k because of the fans, not because of workout, and he has sustained his fan base because of the fans and their respect for the craft

he wasnt demanding, just asking for a look lol close mouths dont get fed, that was the least he could do

I'm speaking more from a perspective of his whole career. He had strong fan support but he gained a ton of casual fans and women after SS and that's what led to FHD having the ears and appeal of everybody

Crazy abbreviation

Huh?

If we’re being real the only people on GOOD music who probably made money for the label are Sean and John Legend

I think the label also realized we were at a time where building a fanbase was more important than getting a number 1 on billboard and actually let him breathe

But I do believe if they trusted Cole from the jump we get a better debut and it still does 100k+

the entire album was changed when Dre pulled up

not everyone gon pop off, the point is that he made the effort so comparing him to Hov is a piss poor take

nothing Hov did was gonna be a guarantee but this nigga didnt even try

we watched Wayne actively try to give his artists looks, no matter how bad they were, and he was at the peak of his career so that whole ‘artist mentality’ excuse for Hov is bullshit.

nigga gave RIHANNA HOW MANY LOOKS when she was breaking into superstar territory. he couldnt do that for Cole not once? even after he proved himself? like yeah man im not hearin none of that

Dre literally changed GKMC lmfao

like it’s not far fetched to think Jay could have did more for Cole

you know how major him just APPEARING in Beyonce party video was on social media? now imagine asking your wife to give your protege a goddamn feature geez

nigga Bey did more for him than Hov lmao that Party record was a great look for him

bro Sean was on songs with legends within a 1-2 albums, he had a placement on MBDTF they turned into a bonus, ye never shorted that guy as a label boss as opposed to basically everyone else he signed

outside of Ye, Sean was keeping the lights on for that label, lets not do this

Can't Get Enough hate

KTT still pretending like Sideline Story isn't Cole's best project

I don’t think so either? (Besides the money dispute. But that’s my business and I don’t know anything about it)

At least to my eyes, Ye and Sean sold a lot of records, made a lot of money, and made a bunch of good songs together

So to this day I’m not sure why Ye went on drink champs, dissed Sean, held up the tombstone and made up a story about Sean working for the democrats