Another Cole and JAY-Z story from Chris Gotti - TFU Podcast

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  • Jan 18
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    CRACKASTEPPAVEGAN

    It was also on cwss

    That’s my point though. Like Cole had hits in the sense of popular songs already but was doubting himself and Jay Z basically did no favors to instill confidence in him which led to some of that bad results on CW:SS

  • Jan 18
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    WhoAmI

    The beat on that song is so f***in awful

    Plus it’s insane that Jays given Meek, Jeezy, Drake, Kanye etc… all time classic verses and this weak bullshit is the only Hov feature on a Cole project. That unironically makes the song worse in hindsight

    Jay and Ye are weird man, they supposedly hate Drake but will do the most for him

  • Jan 18
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    Gosh

    It’s pissing me off just thinking about it man

    DJ Khaled gets 5 Jay Z features

    Cole gets 1

  • Thank God he signed to Hov and not Dre, close call frfr

  • Jan 18
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    Swayzomad

    Was still trash and a waste of a Jay feature

    Song is worth it for the call back to it in Tale of Two Cities

    Cost Me A Lot —> Mr Nice Watch —> Tale of Two Cities
    A nice little trilogy

  • Jan 18
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    Jbreezyondeck

    That’s my point though. Like Cole had hits in the sense of popular songs already but was doubting himself and Jay Z basically did no favors to instill confidence in him which led to some of that bad results on CW:SS

    At some point I really did think damn does he actually fw J Cole

  • Jbreezyondeck

    “Drake’s up next see what he do with it” - Jay
    - Cole

    this part always kills me

  • Classique

    Drake and Cole were talking at the Grammy's or some industry part and Jay said Drake "What are you doing give this guy a hit". Jay treated Cole terribly

    yeah this is crazy work

  • Mac Wit Da Cheese

    Song is worth it for the call back to it in Tale of Two Cities

    Cost Me A Lot —> Mr Nice Watch —> Tale of Two Cities
    A nice little trilogy

    I think this says more about Cole being good at reflecting and tying things back to his past as we see with Disc 2 Track 2, but I don't agree that it makes it worth it.

    Nice point to make tho

  • Jan 18
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    Swayzomad

    Jay and Ye are weird man, they supposedly hate Drake but will do the most for him

    Deep down inside they both wish they signed Drake and resent the artists they actually signed. There’s no other reason for Kanye to hate Sean and for Jay to hate Cole as much as they clearly do

  • WhoAmI

    DJ Khaled gets 5 Jay Z features

    Cole gets 1

    People getting hyped for that jay Nas Collab on a DJ Khaled song when they already had a way better one with Success had me disappointed

  • Jay lowkey treated Cole like a Make-A-Wish kid

  • LickMyBalls

    Not a hit

    very organic hit. this is highkey what made him popular

  • Jan 18
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    CRACKASTEPPAVEGAN

    At some point I really did think damn does he actually fw J Cole

    Just doing a little guessing here but I feel like at that point he didn’t really care as much about Roc Nation to be directly involved like he was with Roc-a-Fella. It’s actually kind of jarring when you think about it because that really was the era to have your label pushed. MMG, Young Money, TDE and GOOD all were eating heavy in that era

  • Jan 18
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    WhoAmI

    Deep down inside they both wish they signed Drake and resent the artists they actually signed. There’s no other reason for Kanye to hate Sean and for Jay to hate Cole as much as they clearly do

    I can see this, especially with Jay. The Sean hate from Ye was surprising to me

  • LickMyBalls

    At the end of the day it's just business it's the same as Cole singing his own artists and not doing a lot for them and Cole is more relevant today musically than Jay

    Vicious cycle

  • Gosh

    The fact they had to be on the album period is Jays fault

    Workout and definitely can’t get enough arent the reason Sideline story was so successful

    The fan base Cole had is the reason

    We are strong

    We are Cole World

    No blanket

  • Jbreezyondeck

    Just doing a little guessing here but I feel like at that point he didn’t really care as much about Roc Nation to be directly involved like he was with Roc-a-Fella. It’s actually kind of jarring when you think about it because that really was the era to have your label pushed. MMG, Young Money, TDE and GOOD all were eating heavy in that era

    Rocafella in the early 00s was a perfect storm: Kanye was the secret weapon Jay could deploy before ye got big in his own right. Then you had Hov hopping on white-hot hits like Fiesta, and the whole build up to his retirement.

    Jay didn't have that same wind under his wings like before, even though he was still popular. GOOD Music was a juggernaut, Young Money was being run by what many considered during that time to be Wayne at the peak of his powers, MMG also doing it thing, but the common denominator among all three that they had over ROC was a roaster.

  • rx friendly ghost

    ridiculous, dre skimmed it and inserted his horrible headphones verse

    Marketing

  • Jan 18
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    LickMyBalls

    At the end of the day it's just business it's the same as Cole singing his own artists and not doing a lot for them and Cole is more relevant today musically than Jay

    nigga Cole has given all his Dreamville artists multiple placements

    he had THREE label compilation albums, one of which had industry niggas mad they didnt get invited to the sessions lol

    created a festival where every artist on the label had an automatic set

    this a lazy ass take, Cole has put in way more effort than Hov has as a boss

  • Jan 18
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    NoFace

    nigga Cole has given all his Dreamville artists multiple placements

    he had THREE label compilation albums, one of which had industry niggas mad they didnt get invited to the sessions lol

    created a festival where every artist on the label had an automatic set

    this a lazy ass take, Cole has put in way more effort than Hov has as a boss

    Would you say Dame is a better boss?

  • CRACKASTEPPAVEGAN

    Would you say Dame is a better boss?

    Chill

  • CRACKASTEPPAVEGAN

    Would you say Dame is a better boss?

    Comparing men’s ability of being in charge of other men

  • NoFace

    nigga Cole has given all his Dreamville artists multiple placements

    he had THREE label compilation albums, one of which had industry niggas mad they didnt get invited to the sessions lol

    created a festival where every artist on the label had an automatic set

    this a lazy ass take, Cole has put in way more effort than Hov has as a boss

    Then he paid the current and some former artists on the label after selling the festival

    Cole was a phenomenal label head, ain't no reason I should've known or heard Cozz

  • Jan 18
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    Lightskin biracial niggas with white moms always demanding people drop everything and cater to them and give em help

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