lowkey mbdtf was a breath of fresh air cause 808s was so jarring i remember as a kid being happy kanye was more nigga again
See I vividly remember black people lowkey as a whole being put off from 808s outside of the couple of big singles when I was a kid I knew I wasn’t the only one
See I vividly remember black people lowkey as a whole being put off from 808s outside of the couple of big singles when I was a kid I knew I wasn’t the only one
Drake and 808s ye was some s*** u never listen to around ya boys
See I vividly remember black people lowkey as a whole being put off from 808s outside of the couple of big singles when I was a kid I knew I wasn’t the only one
I took a shower while listening to my burned 808s CD for the first time and felt disgusted
when is kendrick going to drop his Yeezus equivalent album? drake already did with FATD and carti did with WLR
Yeezus was f***ing ass so hopefully never
when is kendrick going to drop his Yeezus equivalent album? drake already did with FATD and carti did with WLR
Lmao, For All the Dogs was not Drake’s Yeezus
we must grow up from using Yeezus as our only lens of artists making creative pivots
I just think it’s just the most prominent example in modern rap music and all of us are rap fans on here
Yeezus was f***ing ass so hopefully never
Woah dere
Drake and 808s ye was some s*** u never listen to around ya boys
Now Drake is the music you play around the boys 
knew this thread was gonna be ass but clicked anyway and saw "FATD was Drake's Yeezus"
have a nice day and drink bleach yall
I just think it’s just the most prominent example in modern rap music and all of us are rap fans on here
then let’s try and widen the lenses because that perspective limits the sound of the pivot
Kendrick made GKMC and then TPAB
he already had his “Yeezus” moment smdh
these niggas just want it to be edm/rock adjacent sounds to count as a creative pivot and I’m so over it in 2025
See I vividly remember black people lowkey as a whole being put off from 808s outside of the couple of big singles when I was a kid I knew I wasn’t the only one
We gotta knock off the “black people don't like weird creative music” s*** in general
Any person of any ethnicity that only listens to mainstream music ain’t gonna f*** with weird stuff
All these creative black artists doing anything unique end up getting clowned and called white people music. S*** is damaging
I feel like before then it was kind of an arms race among the good rap artists to make the dopest most creative album mfs could muster. Then s*** like MBDTF, GKMC, Yeezus, and TPAB dropped and mfs just collectively went "we can't top this s***, lets just make trap, pop rap, and dusty coke rap" and critics all collectively went "nothing will ever be better than this, everything is a 5/10"
Idk man Im at work, its early, and rap is boooring rn

We gotta knock off the “black people don't like weird creative music” s*** in general
Any person of any ethnicity that only listens to mainstream music ain’t gonna f*** with weird stuff
All these creative black artists doing anything unique end up getting clowned and called white people music. S*** is damaging
it only gets labeled that way because that’s who those artists tend to surround themselves with and visit for a***ysis
it’s like Pusha heralding Fantano’s opinion…as a listener of his music, I don’t give a f*** about Fantano or any white critic, but now when I see you sitting with buddy or NYT white boys, I may be put off before hitting play
it’s why Thug loves Andre music but hates Andre the person because he treated him like they not kin
it only gets labeled that way because that’s who those artists tend to surround themselves with and visit for a***ysis
it’s like Pusha heralding Fantano’s opinion…as a listener of his music, I don’t give a f*** about Fantano or any white critic, but now when I see you sitting with buddy or NYT white boys, I may be put off before hitting play
it’s why Thug loves Andre music but hates Andre the person because he treated him like they not kin
Ngl this isn’t true at all lol
Anything that’s off the beaten path soundwise gets dismissed as “hoe scaring” music or white people s***, has nothing to do with who it’s surrounded by
Only time experimental s*** gets gradually accepted is when a nigga that is “cool” does it and people feel secure enough to fw it
it only gets labeled that way because that’s who those artists tend to surround themselves with and visit for a***ysis
it’s like Pusha heralding Fantano’s opinion…as a listener of his music, I don’t give a f*** about Fantano or any white critic, but now when I see you sitting with buddy or NYT white boys, I may be put off before hitting play
it’s why Thug loves Andre music but hates Andre the person because he treated him like they not kin
I genuinely don’t believe Thug loves 3stacks music
There’s nothing I hate more than a artist saying “I’m a huge fan of this guy, he was a huge influence” yet their music bares zero resemblance
It’s why I used to immediately write off any SoundCloud rapper saying Marilyn Manson or whatever is a huge influence. S*** is just lies lol
I genuinely don’t believe Thug loves 3stacks music
There’s nothing I hate more than a artist saying “I’m a huge fan of this guy, he was a huge influence” yet their music bares zero resemblance
It’s why I used to immediately write off any SoundCloud rapper saying Marilyn Manson or whatever is a huge influence. S*** is just lies lol
THIS
Ngl this isn’t true at all lol
Anything that’s off the beaten path soundwise gets dismissed as “hoe scaring” music or white people s***, has nothing to do with who it’s surrounded by
Only time experimental s*** gets gradually accepted is when a nigga that is “cool” does it and people feel secure enough to fw it
I disagree and many 90s/2000s artists would as well lmfao. this whole separation started when critics opinions started being taken seriously (blog era) to where young niggas like Tyler who were inspired by a nigga like Pharrell was getting s***ted on by critics who controlled these platforms
when Wayne went to rock, everyone thought it was corny
he was lucky he had Lollipop. it didn’t matter that he was looked at as the coolest then
I genuinely don’t believe Thug loves 3stacks music
There’s nothing I hate more than a artist saying “I’m a huge fan of this guy, he was a huge influence” yet their music bares zero resemblance
It’s why I used to immediately write off any SoundCloud rapper saying Marilyn Manson or whatever is a huge influence. S*** is just lies lol
marilyn manson is a fraud anyways, at least pick a better pseudo influence
I disagree and many 90s/2000s artists would as well lmfao. this whole separation started when critics opinions started being taken seriously (blog era) to where young niggas like Tyler who were inspired by a nigga like Pharrell was getting s***ted on by critics who controlled these platforms
when Wayne went to rock, everyone thought it was corny
he was lucky he had Lollipop. it didn’t matter that he was looked at as the coolest then
Critics are a component of it but it genuinely is largely just niggas being ignorant and close minded to anything that doesn’t sound like s*** they already like