Valentine

7mo

no it was Carter 4 then Take Care but it was surrounded by Watch The Throne, Jeezy, Lupe and Bad Meets Evil

…and the rest of the top list in 2012 was Nas, an almost 40 year old 2 Chainz, Rick Ross, GOOD Music

if I took enough time, I could easily make a list of every big album to drop by an artist who debuted >2018 in the last 7 years, it’s really not hard, I’ve done it before. such stats, like I said, are narrow a perspective on what’s going on lol. it’s much of the same, rap was on a down trend, pop heavy s*** 2013 into 2014 before everything pivoted again with the new class of artist late 2015. even Drake pivoted his whole persona/sound to what it is today thanks to New ATL trap and the dark s*** Travis was doing. rap just experienced another great run 2019-2023 with new artists, sounds, movements and capped it off with the biggest moment in music last year. We’re in a transition period lol, this always happens

and My Turn is literally one of the biggest rap albums of the decade if we don’t narrow our perspective to artists who blew up in the 2020s who debuted 2018/2019

and the names that are always mentioned, don’t seem to matter. Roddy has a big album. Doja has a big album. f***ing Jack Harlow has a big album lmaoo. Yeat broke through. Gunna outsold The Weeknd. Rod Wave got 4 #1s albums at big numbers. I just don’t get the hyper fixation on the numbers, s*** still moving today. we’ve literally had like 5 female rappers go top 10 billboard in song/album this decade! that’s amazing!

Bobby_96

7mo

Not sure what you mean by "mid-late 2000's" but this was what we got in hip hop from 2004-2009.

Outside of the ringtone slop hits, we were loaded with great projects in that era. And I don't even think the quality of the 2010's picked up until 2011 cause there were mad disappointing mainstream rap album drops in 2010 outside of MBDTF.

ryuH

7mo

Literally no one was saying this in the 2010's, it was a pretty common take that there were plenty of new talented artists leading the culture

In the 2000s there was that whole thing with Nas saying "Hip-Hop is dead" but even he said he didn't think that, he just used it as a concept since he saw the divide between generations and regions starting to spark that conversation. There were a s*** ton of talented and commercially successful artists at that time though

This time its wayyyyyy different. Its literally to the point that we cant name anyone that is both an elite talent and commercially dominant and in their 20s. That has never been the case.

Benny Boy

7mo

At least ringtone rap had catchy choruses. Plenty of hits. Fun music and dance gimmicks.

Xaviersobased is a worse songwriter than Soulja Boy

ryuH

7mo

Literally no one was saying this in the 2010's, it was a pretty common take that there were plenty of new talented artists leading the culture

In the 2000s there was that whole thing with Nas saying "Hip-Hop is dead" but even he said he didn't think that, he just used it as a concept since he saw the divide between generations and regions starting to spark that conversation. There were a s*** ton of talented and commercially successful artists at that time though

This time its wayyyyyy different. Its literally to the point that we cant name anyone that is both an elite talent and commercially dominant and in their 20s. That has never been the case.

Jim Halpert

7mo

argument is tired

can make up hypotheticals about any artist ever

babylon sherm

7mo

There were more people saying rap was dead in the 2010s than you could ever imagine, what

babylon sherm

7mo

There were more people saying rap was dead in the 2010s than you could ever imagine, what

ryuH

7mo

Maybe people uncles but I don't recall that sentiment reaching the forums

I feel like 2010s internet culture was stanning they artists hard as hell

BIRTH CERTIFICATE

7mo

i mean xxx, pop smoke, Juice wrld, king von, im missing people but they had strong appeal across the board

shimmy

7mo

Imagine kendrick drops a Cntrl verse today. There is literally no one to name these days that's how downhill we have gone

hellogoodbye

7mo

They all have really dumb names like bigxtheplug and nettspend

shimmy

7mo

Imagine kendrick drops a Cntrl verse today. There is literally no one to name these days that's how downhill we have gone

ryuH

7mo

Literally no one was saying this in the 2010's, it was a pretty common take that there were plenty of new talented artists leading the culture

In the 2000s there was that whole thing with Nas saying "Hip-Hop is dead" but even he said he didn't think that, he just used it as a concept since he saw the divide between generations and regions starting to spark that conversation. There were a s*** ton of talented and commercially successful artists at that time though

This time its wayyyyyy different. Its literally to the point that we cant name anyone that is both an elite talent and commercially dominant and in their 20s. That has never been the case.

shimmy

7mo

Thoughts on Skrilla?

shimmy

7mo

Let's go back to when every rapper started with "lil"

Marvin

7mo

A foregone conclusion when X, Juice and Pop all died.

The legends are losing their minds / putting out dog s***.

Cole and Drake have been infected by the Jay Z syndrome and have creatively run out of fresh ideas.

Kendrick ain't about to carry the genre given the type of music he elects to make and quite frankly the beef is the only reason he's on top, were people actually spinning Mr. morale?

And then beyond that, there isn't any new sustainable talent. Most of the women are doing the same old over sexualization swan song or just getting their money via pop.

But hey at least we have KPOP Demon Hunters, Morgan Wallen, and whatever tik tok star is trending this week.

eversince

7mo

Carti used to say his favorite rapper is Currensy.

Maybe there’s no new rappers breaking thru cause they growing up on ken carson and saying their fav pierre bourne or someshit