Move to Ye Sxn and let this s*** die

3 pages later you still ain’t post no music

youre dumb as f***

T-Pain said that West told him he had listened to his debut album Rappa Ternt Sanga (2005) before making 808s & Heartbreak

Cool, don’t think that means Kanye’s execution of auto tune wasn’t original

Cause the words of people that were part of the creative process is stronger than us debating on if we agree to hear a sound between two songs

You tried it

Ye brings in T-Pain to help make 808s and Ye stans acting like he had no influence on it. They probably don't know Cudi helped to

Because he's undeniable the greatest artist in the history of mankind.

yea this thread way too long

Example #1

Only ignorant people assume there is a blueprint, creation is nuanced

Also t-pain's music doesn't sound at all like 808s and by the way you talking I'm assuming you've never heard it

OP is being meticulous.

Kanye has been very original when it comes to mainstream rap. This is widely accepted even among credible music critics.

Of course, Kanye has his own influences ranging from Mase to Outkast to Hov but he's been very innovative in hip hop throughout his career, challenging common hip hop sounds and tropes and helping expand the genre's boundaries.

Ironic because I recall you saying Rod wave wasn’t influenced by Kanye even tho he said out his own mouth he was

So you one of them niggas that pick and choose

We won’t see an artist of this level of popularity who moves off of raw emotion, for better or worse, again imo. At least not for a while. That’s what makes him so polarizing. Both musically and just in how he moves publicly. He goes 100% into what he’s motivated or inspired by.

Y’all are pretty much arguing beat selection vs vocal technique

Ye took the vocal technique from T Pain
Subject matter from Cudi
And beats from 80’s mixed with modern bass/808 at the time

This arguably could be on 808s if you hear it in Ye’s voice but of course beats from 05 aren’t gonna sound like beats from 08 just off how fast the club /beat landscape changes between 04-05, 06-07 and then 08 going into 09 (side note which is why it sucks that music in the last ten years has pretty much stayed revolving around trap beats but that’s another thread)

Rod Wave was influenced by thru the wire after his own near fatal car crash WELL into his career but his sound 100% Kevin Gates

Context be kickin your ass

Nah. He said on the breakfast club Kanye was one of his influences in general.

It’s funny you not keeping the same logic about the person who worked on the musics words mattering more than the listener

Respond to the niggas who proved you wrong, hoe

Y’all really got this to 5+ pages ? Lmao

Except the Bible album and his most recent one this is the answer.

You emotional like a b**** lmfao

Y'all give the most low effort threads pages and wonder why the site is the way it is

I aint seen that but if he said so then he inspired by ye 🤷🏿‍♂️

Dont change nothing about him and gates

To be honest. I feeel like nothing he did is original. Yes it’s a mixture of things but all of his rapping albums don’t sound original. I don’t count 808’s because he is singing on that s***.