If you just a vocalist I think artist makes more sense than musician. Musician (while not necessarily true) implies playing instruments or production or something beyond just vocals
kinda stupid
are there musicians who aren't artists?
yes
i play piano but i dont make music and would never call myself an artist
If you just a vocalist I think artist makes more sense than musician. Musician (while not necessarily true) implies playing instruments or production or something beyond just vocals
sure, but “artists” don’t really call themselves “vocalists” much either
kinda stupid
are there musicians who aren't artists?
Would you consider someone who plays the flute for school an artist?
kinda stupid
are there musicians who aren't artists?
Also dont call it stupid bc its not stupid
Its not my fault u dont know what a session player is
sure, but “artists” don’t really call themselves “vocalists” much either
That's true. I think vocalist implies singing which a good amount of rappers don't do, or at least it isn't their primary focus
Artist when speaking musically can be a rock band, a rapper, a singer, a trumpet player etc etc. I think people who create music in more than one lane (they rap and sing for example) like using it cause it covers it all
An artist is a frontman, usually a vocalist (non-traditional classically trained singer type)
A musician is anyone who makes music. Every artist is a musician (there’s contention against this, that’s another convo) but not every musician is an artist
They cant play instruments so they scared to call themselves musicians lol they "artists"
They cant play instruments so they scared to call themselves musicians lol they "artists"
the voice is an instrument
That's true. I think vocalist implies singing which a good amount of rappers don't do, or at least it isn't their primary focus
Artist when speaking musically can be a rock band, a rapper, a singer, a trumpet player etc etc. I think people who create music in more than one lane (they rap and sing for example) like using it cause it covers it all
the only thing “vocalist” implies is the use of vocals
it doesn’t have to specifically be singing, that’s what a singer is
Cause it’s “a box”
the only thing “vocalist” implies is the use of vocals
it doesn’t have to specifically be singing, that’s what a singer is
I mean the technical definition I agree with you, I'm just talking bout the perception. If somebody tells me they're a vocalist my mind goes to singer not rapper
no, that’s the definition of a classically-trained vocalist
a vocalist is a person who provides vocals in music
what are you even talking about nigga?
like i literally took singing lessons for a year, that is not how they term vocalist in industries whatsoever
I mean the technical definition I agree with you, I'm just talking bout the perception. If somebody tells me they're a vocalist my mind goes to singer not rapper
because that's exactly what it is
hence the distinction between vocalist and a singer
these niggas are in here trying to be pretentious for no reason
Idk if it’s relevant but I’ve heard a lot of athletes talking about the term “athlete” to mean playing more than one sport lol
Like if you only play baseball and not football and basketball you’re not an athlete.
Whereas I don’t really hear that discussion amongst musician since we all use it as a broad term.
In football recruiting, high school players will often get recruited as “athletes” if they haven’t picked their position yet for college, and they play multiple positions in HS. So they’ll sign him on as an athlete instead of a “wide receiver” and then figure out their best fit once they’re in the program.
Might be related might not
Because a lot of these niggas don’t have the fundamentals and technical foundations to be called vocalists or musicians. They often times work with them though.
what are you even talking about nigga?
like i literally took singing lessons for a year, that is not how they term vocalist in industries whatsoever
it’s so pretentious to say someone’s not a vocalist unless they’re classically trained lmfao
it’s so pretentious to say someone’s not a vocalist unless they’re classically trained lmfao
that's how the term is used man. there would be no point in distinguishing a singer from a vocalist at that point
that's how the term is used man. there would be no point in distinguishing a singer from a vocalist at that point
it may be how the term is used in certain circles (i assume its just with professional singing type stuff since thats all i can really find) but it is absolutely not how the term is used in common speech. where vocalist = person who performs vocals
and like i was kinda saying earlier a distinction between the 2 terms is that there are different types of musical vocals besides just singing that people include under the word vocalist