that comparison doesn’t even make sense
macguffin =\= nonsensical writing
I didn’t even know “that” was a trope that had a name but makes sense lol. Thanks for that.
For the definition I’m seeing in Google I think the overall aesthetic/lifestyle Travis and Frank reinforce with their vague songwriting absolutely serves as that. As long as they give you chunks of young black non street nigga lifestyle but still grounded in the rap tropes of its time it works lol. They could fill the specifics with anything just like the briefcase could have been the trunk of Jules and Travolta’s car or something inside someone’s jacket. Lol
I didn’t even know “that” was a trope that had a name but makes sense lol. Thanks for that.
For the definition I’m seeing in Google I think the overall aesthetic/lifestyle Travis and Frank reinforce with their vague songwriting absolutely serves as that. As long as they give you chunks of young black non street nigga lifestyle but still grounded in the rap tropes of its time it works lol. They could fill the specifics with anything just like the briefcase could have been the trunk of Jules and Travolta’s car or something inside someone’s jacket. Lol
I think Frank is trying to be fake deep with his lyrics though, Travis just feels like he's trying to reach the word amount requirement on an essay
the main topics talking are an interaction with a nervous fan at starbucks, fans who press him about dropping music, and his struggles to finish and drop music
look at them shakes
made up a dance
how come you're shook when I ain't take out my hands?
beans, starbucks, starstruck
it's coming soon
that's cause you suck
it's coming soon
suck my d***
niggas think it's new, it ain't new
old files just turned 2, yeah it flew
still sound like it's coming soon
new files sitting on my drive nothing new
all of them days when I paid for the studio rate instead of the rent
now I could hang in this b**** every day wait for some inspiration to hit
this ain't no hopes and dreams it's prophecy
hardly sleep, faith was in a coffee bean
Lmao I love Frank but cmon, you’re reaching with the “fan at Starbucks” s***. If any other artist said those lines, you wouldn’t come to that conclusion.
DHL isn’t about anything in particular
Frank AT TIMES lives in vagaries where he throws cool lines & references at you with that blasé delivery but also connects some seriously poignant & thoughtful imagery …at times he does both in the same song , unquestionably a great writer what is this lol
What does Frank Ocean do better in his raps then Travis Scott. If Frank Ocean made My Eyes, ya'll would be praising it as a masterpiece
Frank is a lot better at subtle wordplay than Travis is.
His second verse on RAF is a great example of that
Lmao I love Frank but cmon, you’re reaching with the “fan at Starbucks” s***. If any other artist said those lines, you wouldn’t come to that conclusion.
DHL isn’t about anything in particular
he says word for word that someone was shook and star struck when he didn't take his hands out of his pockets greet them at starbucks, don't be obtuse
That Tumblr post "the author didn't mean anything by the door being red, it was just red" ruined an entire generation lol we might never recover
Bro that used to piss me off so much when people would say that
Frank ocean raps better than Travis Scott and its possible that u
a. are trolling (which means I took the bait, good job)
or
b. you're too dumb to decipher good bars
Krabs told you to stay away from the hooks spongeboy!
What does Frank Ocean do better in his raps then Travis Scott. If Frank Ocean made My Eyes, ya'll would be praising it as a masterpiece
I like that song so idk what to tell u
Krabs told you to stay away from the hooks spongeboy!

he says word for word that someone was shook and star struck when he didn't take his hands out of his pockets greet them at starbucks, don't be obtuse
That’s actually not what he says word for word lmao
not at all he’s just mastered the art of giving you just enough to where his fans force his s*** to have meaning lol
a line like beans star bucks doesn’t have any real meaning other than wordplay about pills but if you ask a Frank fan what it means they’d start writing an euphoria episode treatment
you spittin
writing a euphoria episode treatment is funny as s***
while i agree frank don’t be talkin about S***. i feel like travis gets heat because he has hella writers whereas Frank is known for writing his own s*** so the bar is lower
“dreaming about a thought that could dream a thought that could dream about a dreamer, dreaming about a thought that could dream about a dream dreaming a thought…”
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Life experience = when you start selling million dollar a*** beads and grooming barely legal twinks only to dump them when they start growing facial hair
Who did Frank Ocean groom?
What does Frank Ocean do better in his raps then Travis Scott. If Frank Ocean made My Eyes, ya'll would be praising it as a masterpiece
This the second time you said something like this in here but niggas on this site love My Eyes
That’s actually not what he says word for word lmao
wym you don't remember the part of DHL where frank talks about meeting a fan at starbucks??
So nobody is catching that this is a parody of the Carti thread
Ahh, so it's a troll thread
What does Frank Ocean do better in his raps then Travis Scott. If Frank Ocean made My Eyes, ya'll would be praising it as a masterpiece
tbh my eyes already sounds like a frank ocean song