tbh i feel like the main motivator is production costs
why pay for producers and writers and studio musicians and whole string sections and s*** when u can whip up a spacey trap beat for free and the kids will eat that s*** up
I mean there are good "spacey trap" beats lets not get close minded
Production cost, yeah, but artist NOW have way more say in that
Its optional tbh to go big, but that s*** got corny you gotta recontextualize the genre THE WEEKND
strings and double tracked vocals s*** was mandated back then
I mean there are good "spacey trap" beats lets not get close minded
Production cost, yeah, but artist NOW have way more say in that
Its optional tbh to go big, but that s*** got corny you gotta recontextualize the genre THE WEEKND
strings and double tracked vocals s*** was mandated back then
Bangladesh too always brought crazy innovation and those hard drums, way underrated.
People only talk about Timbaland and Pharrell cause thats all they know
Disagree so much about who was pushing the genre forward for me these were the guys doing it
1. Polow Da Don (crazy hitting drums and synths)
2. Eric Hudson (Flashing Lights etc.)
3. Timbaland (Obvious)
4. Neptunes & Pharrell Solo
5. Ryan Leslie (no ones has made music like him)
6. Tim & Bob (who the f*** has drums like them, or Asian samples)
7. Pop & Oak (so much f***ing versatility)
8. Carlos McKinney
9. The-Dream with Tricky Stewart
10. Danja (lowkey the goat of the 00s)
11. S O U N D Z (wow what else to say a legend)
12. StarGate (say what you want they had versatility and class)
13. Dre & Vidal (brought that warm sound into contemporary R&B)
14. Jim Jonsin (synths went HAM)
nah Timbo and the Neptunes stand out the most from their contemporaries
they changed the sonic landscape bro
The Dream added atmosphere to the genre
these other guys r flashes in the pan
Those three are twice as influential, I haven't seen a polow da don production credit in years, timbo, pharell and chad, and the dream still active today. Their influence has carried over to the next gen so much they still working with artists pushing the s***
I mean there are good "spacey trap" beats lets not get close minded
Production cost, yeah, but artist NOW have way more say in that
Its optional tbh to go big, but that s*** got corny you gotta recontextualize the genre THE WEEKND
strings and double tracked vocals s*** was mandated back then
yea i agree w what ur saying i feel like its more so a issue with the industry as a whole
its just harder to match the pop sensibilities of spacey trap beats with the harder to produce compositions @zenereura is talking about
nah Timbo and the Neptunes stand out the most from their contemporaries
they changed the sonic landscape bro
The Dream added atmosphere to the genre
these other guys r flashes in the pan
Those three are twice as influential, I haven't seen a polow da don production credit in years, timbo, pharell and chad, and the dream still active today. Their influence has carried over to the next gen so much they still working with artists pushing the s***
No, you really don't know how much time I put into looking into the credits of the producers
I wrote the credits in iTunes to every single song I have and made playlists for every producer, had over 200 playlists.
Timbaland and Pharrell get all the credit because the media hyped them, that's not what the music tells us at all.
Polow da Don was just as influential and made amazing music
nah Timbo and the Neptunes stand out the most from their contemporaries
they changed the sonic landscape bro
The Dream added atmosphere to the genre
these other guys r flashes in the pan
Those three are twice as influential, I haven't seen a polow da don production credit in years, timbo, pharell and chad, and the dream still active today. Their influence has carried over to the next gen so much they still working with artists pushing the s***
The-Dream wasn't even producing his s*** wtf u talking about
it was Los da Mystro and Tricky nigga wtf u on
No, you really don't know how much time I put into looking into the credits of the producers
I wrote the credits in iTunes to every single song I have and made playlists for every producer, had over 200 playlists.
Timbaland and Pharrell get all the credit because the media hyped them, that's not what the music tells us at all.
Polow da Don was just as influential and made amazing music
just looked into Polow cuz i only knew him from his rap beats

Frank wrote this song ?
Nigga J Lack made tracks on a another sonic planet and he gets no f***ing credit
just looked into Polow cuz i only knew him from his rap beats
!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUuY0i3qowQFrank wrote this song ?
that's def not Frank singing bro
Nigga J Lack made tracks on a another sonic planet and he gets no f***ing credit
post some links pls
all the producers u mentioned came after pharell and timbo bro, or were heavily inspired by them, they just shaped those sounds into their own things which was cool for a brief stint
all the producers u mentioned came after pharell and timbo bro, or were heavily inspired by them, they just shaped those sounds into their own things which was cool for a brief stint
no nigga, you don't know
when bugatti biebs came out with an entire R&B album that didn't get the recognition it deserved

It dropped in 2013 but it was clear at that time (even before the trap soul wave) that R&B genre was dead in the mainstream. The question now is in what direction will R&B go once the trapsoul s*** dies out or will it become a dead genre.
no nigga, you don't know
they followed the trends set by those two groups just as much as others, the same my happen today, but at least there is way more diversity and non commercialized s*** to spawn new voices
the songs are cool but i dont see what ur saying w the prod tbh
just some saws and plucks and s*** you could make this w omnisphere in like 30 min
they followed the trends set by those two groups just as much as others, the same my happen today, but at least there is way more diversity and non commercialized s*** to spawn new voices
lmfao no, you literally have no clue, I have talked to Polow directly before, these niggas were not looking to Pharrell or Timbaland, you have no clue.
Timbaland took his sound from Danja too in the 00s, you wouldn't even know where to begin nigga.
the songs are cool but i dont see what ur saying w the prod tbh
just some saws and plucks and s*** you could make this w omnisphere in like 30 min
see exactly these producers r no f***ing different if not worse than a pharell or timbo, dream, storch at this time
see exactly these producers r no f***ing different if not worse than a pharell or timbo, dream, storch at this time
hahahahaha the-dream wasn't even producing at the time and Danja was doing all of Timbos beats.
Shut up nigga and Scott Storch was doing cocaine and producing nothing, lmfao why even mention him nigga
lmfao no, you literally have no clue, I have talked to Polow directly before, these niggas were not looking to Pharrell or Timbaland, you have no clue.
Timbaland took his sound from Danja too in the 00s, you wouldn't even know where to begin nigga.
you've talked to Polow he just as salty as you?