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  • Sep 21, 2022
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    Cherrywine

    Big agree. Random race swaps for no reason kinda irk my brain. Like it just feels like an alternate version rather than straight from the source material. I don’t mind it much and side characters who don’t matter that much

    It also feels like sloppy seconds to turn a popular white character into a black version out of the blue. I hate feeling like corporate execs are trying to pander to me. How bout Give us new and original characters instead of black version of white character

    That said it doesn’t ruin my enjoyment of anything. Just minor pet peeve

    That’s all it is is pandering.

  • Sep 21, 2022
    Mac Wit Da Cheese

    Javier Bardem is playing King Triton in the same movie

    Pedro Pascal is Joel in Last of Us

    It’s only an issue to people in one instance

    Black peoples existence is political apparently

  • Sep 21, 2022
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    Cherrywine

    Big agree. Random race swaps for no reason kinda irk my brain. Like it just feels like an alternate version rather than straight from the source material. I don’t mind it much and side characters who don’t matter that much

    It also feels like sloppy seconds to turn a popular white character into a black version out of the blue. I hate feeling like corporate execs are trying to pander to me. How bout Give us new and original characters instead of black version of white character

    That said it doesn’t ruin my enjoyment of anything. Just minor pet peeve

    You know how many race swaps there are that haven’t elicited any sort of response regarding these kinds of attitudes? and guess what, they’re ALL whitewashed

  • Sep 21, 2022
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    back 2 black

    That’s all it is is pandering.

    It's pandering sure but does it actually change anything in most stories? Absolutely not so it's pretty much harmless the only reason it's making noise is because of white racists who can't fathom the existence of non white people

  • Sep 21, 2022

    I wouldn't even say its pandering anyway like it probably doesn't change a thing about who is gonna go watch the movie or not (except racists I guess)

  • Sep 21, 2022
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    Q3D

    It's pandering sure but does it actually change anything in most stories? Absolutely not so it's pretty much harmless the only reason it's making noise is because of white racists who can't fathom the existence of non white people

    As long as we agree it’s pandering, sure. People don’t like to be pandered to, it’s really disgusting sometimes. For all races.

    My biggest issue with all of this is why can’t they just create original stories instead of recreating IPs?

  • Sep 21, 2022
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    back 2 black

    As long as we agree it’s pandering, sure. People don’t like to be pandered to, it’s really disgusting sometimes. For all races.

    My biggest issue with all of this is why can’t they just create original stories instead of recreating IPs?

    Well I agree with that who even asked for a live action little mermaid film? Who asked for any of these live action remakes in the first place

  • Sep 21, 2022

    Also yeah it's lazy to just swap somebody's gender or race I mean it doesn't really do anything but wouldn't it be cooler to just create new characters who would be way better representation instead of just being like copy pasted characters with one difference, probably

  • Sep 21, 2022

    But like anyone who's making a huge deal about this is weird to me, in the end it's just a kids movie if it can make some kids dream isn't that all that matters

  • Sep 21, 2022
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    Q3D

    Well I agree with that who even asked for a live action little mermaid film? Who asked for any of these live action remakes in the first place

    They’re some of the worst movies ever made lol, they knew what they were doing making Ariel black. I don’t care what race she is, but their actions are so disingenuous.

    And then to make it into a live action film with one of the most garbage trailers ever you can hardly even see anything because it’s so damn dark. If this is what they’re trying to do to be “inclusive” it f***ing sucks and they can do so much better.

  • Sep 21, 2022
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    Mac Wit Da Cheese

    Jasmine was played by half white half Indian when Agrabah based on Middle East but no one cared

    Fym there was tons of backlash for that lol yall pick and choose

  • Sep 21, 2022
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    1887

    Fym there was tons of backlash for that lol yall pick and choose

    Yeah it was because the live action was literal dogshit

    Not because of casting

  • Sep 21, 2022
    back 2 black

    They’re some of the worst movies ever made lol, they knew what they were doing making Ariel black. I don’t care what race she is, but their actions are so disingenuous.

    And then to make it into a live action film with one of the most garbage trailers ever you can hardly even see anything because it’s so damn dark. If this is what they’re trying to do to be “inclusive” it f***ing sucks and they can do so much better.

    I think the main criteria should be if she has a good singing voice and can carry the songs, I think this is the case here it's too bad the film looks terrible and the reception has already been corrupted by this stupid debate imo

  • Sep 21, 2022
    eye contact

    Yeah it was because the live action was literal dogshit

    Not because of casting

    Wrong. A quick google search would easily show that there was tons of backlash because of the whitewashing of this but you choose to ignore it.

  • Sep 21, 2022
    1887

    https://fortune.com/2017/07/17/disney-aladdin-movie-cast-jasmine-arab/

    https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/news/disney-princess-jasmine-nonarab-actor-criticism-naomi-scott-a7845851.html

    https://www.ibtimes.com/twitter-reacts-disney-casting-non-arab-actress-naomi-scott-princess-jasmine-aladdin-2567005

    ?

    vox.com/platform/amp/2019/5/24/18635896/disney-live-action-aladdin-controversy-history

    thepirateseye.org/1141/culture/casting-controversy-live-action-aladdin

    screenrant.com/aladdin-movie-controversy-explained-disney-remake-divide-fans

    Here’s a couple more. Can’t believe he said that dumb ass s*** smh.

  • Sep 21, 2022
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    1887

    Fym there was tons of backlash for that lol yall pick and choose

    I misremembered, my point is these are adaptions and it’s their vision of the story they want to tell

    Their reasoning for Jasmine is Agrabah isn’t a real place which is fair enough

  • Sep 21, 2022
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    Mac Wit Da Cheese

    I misremembered, my point is these are adaptions and it’s their vision of the story they want to tell

    Their reasoning for Jasmine is Agrabah isn’t a real place which is fair enough

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    Sep 21, 2022
    Q3D

    Why the hell not lol

    See: my next post fool

  • Sep 21, 2022
    Mac Wit Da Cheese

    I misremembered, my point is these are adaptions and it’s their vision of the story they want to tell

    Their reasoning for Jasmine is Agrabah isn’t a real place which is fair enough

    Yeah lol even in the film adaptation there’s a million cultural mishmashes between the Middle East, Turkish culture, Persian culture, and Indian culture

  • this lil mermaid s*** funny as all hell....
    the outrage makes it seem like the old version doesnt exist...

    if you wanna see ariel as white literally just go watch that one

  • Sep 21, 2022
    eye contact

    You know how many race swaps there are that haven’t elicited any sort of response regarding these kinds of attitudes? and guess what, they’re ALL whitewashed

    Sure, and the same thing applies. I can only speak for the media I care about. And 9/10 nothing gets whitewashed in that media so uh…

  • Sep 21, 2022
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    back 2 black

    Nah bro my view on casting has always been cast whoever fits the director’s vision as long as it doesn’t contradict the character’s culture

    Ariel has no ethnic culture attached to the character so fair game

    Jasmine is from Agrabah which is a fictional place. So again I have no issue with the casting of Naomi. I just didn’t remember if there was backlash or not

    My opinion is consistent

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