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  • May 15, 2021
    Reformed

    Drake killed hip hop

    artists used to put a lot more effort and experiment more on music

    than Drake just comes in making the most generic music imaginable and kills. Taught rappers to never try again.

    Fam what is generic about Drake, he came in the game making music completely different than everybody else at the time. I'm not a Drake stan on his nuts but you're clearly being a hater

  • May 15, 2021

    Beef squashed

  • May 15, 2021
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    Sherminator

    They were playing this at a party once when I pissed myself

    Wait what

  • May 15, 2021
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    mr get dough

    But I’m arguing with the drake stans post not that post and you were defending the drake stans post

    If you acknowledge 50/Em did it then what’s the point of saying it was Drake stans?

    I’m literally arguing with one specific thing that you said, and you’re like nah i made other post outside of this conversation that contradict the point i been arguing, you’re misunderstanding me! all im saying is you said “Drake stans” with no further context or explanation, you just implied it started with them so I picked that specific post and disagreed

    Oh.

    Then I apologize for not adding clarification.

    In recent years, they put more fuel to the fire. I did reference in this thread that all the big sales threads that deal with numbers always come back to drake.

  • May 15, 2021
    YoungNastyShawty

    I remember niggas being rejective when I was posting about Michigan rap and now that they blowing up ktt love it lmao

    you really carry the torch for that fr you put everyone on

  • May 15, 2021

    @Reformed said So Far Gone was trash, should've known that's a troll lol.

  • May 15, 2021
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    jackweb

    Wait what

    That song was playing at a party one time when I was hanging with my boy Stifler and he put it on. I pissed myself in front of some chicks.

    It was embarrassing.

  • May 15, 2021
    El Nigga

    Of course sales have always been talked about, but they didnt take over until recently. Now, sales is the only talking point. You can't say "this album is a classic" now a days without bringing up numbers. KTT is the perfect example of this evolution. Early 2010s Pitchfork and reviews were the bible on KTT. Nobody talked about sales when MBDTF, WTT, Yeezus dropped(i'm not saying literally, I'm talking in general. 15% sales talk at most). Now a days? Nobody ever mentions reviews anymore. And if you talk about the music's quality, somebody will be quick to bring up sales and numbers to dispute you. Its 85% about sales now. Even amongst my friends IRL sales is brought up much more now. Social media highlights sales and its easier than ever to follow numbers with each streaming service having charts and charts social media pages etc.. Its created a monster where sales are the end all be all.

    Well, hip hop declined since 2015 mainstream wise so that's probably part of the reason why.

  • May 15, 2021
    Sherminator

    That song was playing at a party one time when I was hanging with my boy Stifler and he put it on. I pissed myself in front of some chicks.

    It was embarrassing.

    Damn

  • May 15, 2021
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    Reformed

    Drake killed hip hop

    artists used to put a lot more effort and experiment more on music

    than Drake just comes in making the most generic music imaginable and kills. Taught rappers to never try again.

    Most of these young rappers are Future, Keef, and Thugger's kids though....

  • May 15, 2021
    El Nigga

    Of course sales have always been talked about, but they didnt take over until recently. Now, sales is the only talking point. You can't say "this album is a classic" now a days without bringing up numbers. KTT is the perfect example of this evolution. Early 2010s Pitchfork and reviews were the bible on KTT. Nobody talked about sales when MBDTF, WTT, Yeezus dropped(i'm not saying literally, I'm talking in general. 15% sales talk at most). Now a days? Nobody ever mentions reviews anymore. And if you talk about the music's quality, somebody will be quick to bring up sales and numbers to dispute you. Its 85% about sales now. Even amongst my friends IRL sales is brought up much more now. Social media highlights sales and its easier than ever to follow numbers with each streaming service having charts and charts social media pages etc.. Its created a monster where sales are the end all be all.

    wtt one of best selling rap albums last decade

  • May 15, 2021
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    insertcoolnamehere

    Oh.

    Then I apologize for not adding clarification.

    In recent years, they put more fuel to the fire. I did reference in this thread that all the big sales threads that deal with numbers always come back to drake.

    Yeah that’s agreeable

  • May 15, 2021

    That song was playing at a party one time when I was hanging with my boy Stifler and he put it on. I pissed myself in front of some chicks.
    It was embarrassing.

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    Nobody gives a f*** about music quality nowaday

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    2ILL

    It’s a lot of factors but I hate the non black fans that latch onto the numbers convo bc they can’t relate to the cultural aspect of rap

    I feel this but also i’ve never known a white to do this irl.

    maybe I just don’t hang around those types.

  • May 15, 2021
    mr get dough

    Yeah that’s agreeable

  • May 15, 2021
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    PNW

    Nobody gives a f*** about music quality nowaday

    I miss when rap was all about the beep bop hippidty skippity flippity

  • May 15, 2021
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    mr get dough

    Do you not know who 50 cent is OP?

    50 cent was a thug that happened to sell loads because the product was exceptional

  • May 15, 2021
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    Bobby_96

    Most of these young rappers are Future, Keef, and Thugger's kids though....

    heavy autotune rap takes less skill

  • May 15, 2021
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    dapagod

    I feel this but also i’ve never known a white to do this irl.

    maybe I just don’t hang around those types.

    you do everytime you press log in bruh

  • May 15, 2021
    skrt

    50 cent was a thug that happened to sell loads because the product was exceptional

  • May 15, 2021
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    CLB Fractions

    heavy autotune rap takes less skill

    That song was playing at a party one time when I was hanging with my boy Stifler and he put it on. I pissed myself in front of some chicks.
    It was embarrassing.

  • May 15, 2021
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    as much as you may hate something bad music wont sell

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