Takotchi

1w

i f***ing hate it here bro holy s***

Aisosa

1w

So he was ass and started rapping decently again?

That seems like a him problem, TBH

Aisosa

1w

What's Lucky Me about?

thenewjimmorrison

1w

yes MCHG was mid and then he put out a great album, arguably a classic. Whats your point?
Plenty of artists drop garbage or mid and then make an artistic comeback

Valentine

1w

Jay-Z has always made introspective, grown music since the beginning of his career lmfao. nigga literally has a song with Beanie about daddy issues as the outro to a group album, what are we doing on a Friday morning? lol

Aisosa

1w

That's my point exactly. Lots of artists drop mid and then have a comeback.

That's no reason to claim the comeback is a classic or the ideal.

herald

1w

its f*** him but that album def the reason y i think rappers should continue making music after said age

thenewjimmorrison

1w

to me its a classic due to his performance on it, the incredible production, having pretty much 0 filler, the tracklist sequencing is great, and yes the lyrical content is good too.
Im not pretending hes the first artist or rapper to rap on social or personal issues.
But he chose to do it and im gonna give him credit for having substance in his album

Just because other rappers talked about more mature topics before him doesnt mean he cant do it either. Especially since alot of the topics on 4:44 are PERSONAL so nobody else really could touch on those besides Jay

Kojimbo

1w

Op probably thinks TLOP is a classic

herald

1w

anyone who thinks otherwise is kidding themselves, kanye fan or not

Aisosa

1w

What other albums made by rappers older than 40 have you heard?

herald

1w

ka, mach hommy, 2 chainz, billy woods, pusha t, roc marciano, etc discogs

Valentine

1w

Jay-Z has always made introspective, grown music since the beginning of his career lmfao. nigga literally has a song with Beanie about daddy issues as the outro to a group album, what are we doing on a Friday morning? lol

Kojimbo

1w

Overrated album for people
Who started listening to rap in 2016

GreenPointeGraham

1w

You have to stop letting yourself be riled up by the youngins on here who weren't alive or lived through much of Jay-Z's active rap career lol.

herald

1w

we can rate it whatever but that doesnt matter when talking bout a "classic". it made waves in the rap community and has undeniable consensus appeal for the general public.

herald

1w

we can rate it whatever but that doesnt matter when talking bout a "classic". it made waves in the rap community and has undeniable consensus appeal for the general public.

Aisosa

1w

And they were all trash is what you're saying?

Seeing as it was just Jay Z who made you think rappers past 40 had something to offer.

herald

1w

no. they were artists who added credibility to the thought because what they put out was equally good, if not better. i'm saying jay's album reinforced the idea and he was one of the most prominent to prove it could work on a mainstream level. and there will be more after him

GreenPointeGraham

1w

When internet forums first took off fr, it was people mainly talking about sports, politics and Jay-Z fans trying to convince the world why he is the undisputed GOAT lol.

Aisosa

1w

That's not what a classic is