I mean, it's good music but why are we giving Jay Z credit for finally making grown, self-reflective content at 40-something years old when his peers have been doing similar s***?

Nas been talking real world s***.

Eminem had an entire album about addiction and finding his place in tne world in 2010.

Why is Jay Z suddenly recognizing that life isn't all about entry level "Rich Dad, Poor Dad", "I used to move weight" such a big deal?

it's a good album but it spawned a genre of corny white rap fan post where they think every rapper over the age of 40 needs to be rapping about paying their taxes.

Cause it’s Jay and he has the industry in his pocket lol

Jay-Z has always made introspective, grown music since the beginning of his career lmfao. nigga literally has a song with Beanie about daddy issues as the outro to a group album, what are we doing on a Friday morning? lol

This guy said Jay Z finally made self reflective content

Story of OJ a classic song but some of the lyrics about property management in Dumbo etc are hilarious, feel like if it came out now more people would make fun of them

Name a self-reflective Jay Z album.

I feel like if album came out now there’d be more online criticism of the Financial Literacy / “what’s better than one billionaire?” lyrics which felt like a product of their time

You think you just fell out of a coconut tree?

We exist in the context of everything around us, and everything before us

(Idk why I said that, ion even like Jay Z, but it seemed fitting as to why people may have enjoyed it)

But yeah KILL JAY Z and Marcy Me excellent songs, really love Story of OJ/Family Feud/title track/Bam too

What does this even mean?

What do you know about Jay Z as an individual that doesn't paint him in a good light?

That he told you through his music.

Listen man, it's 430 am, I'm taking a s*** and was trying to be funny idk what else to tell yoi

Oh, my bad.

Carry on.

cracker thread

My daddy left us and now im rich as f*** isn't introspection, it's the same braggy, self-aggrandizing s*** he's said throughout most of his career.

Good album but overrated. Lot of wack bars and all the financial stuff is really lame pseudointellectual bullshit

lol there’s no winning with you cause if i say A Ballad of A Fallen Soldier, again from the beginning of his career, you just gone find something to hate on

“Financial freedom my only hope
F*** livin' rich and dyin' broke
I bought some artwork for one million
Two years later, that s*** worth two million
Few years later, that s*** worth eight million
I can't wait to give this s*** to my children”

Yeah if this came out today people would be like “is bro trying to sell me a course” 💀

If the criteria as simple as "self-reflective" then...all of them?

I "took the bait" didn't I? 30 years of probing the life and times of S. Carter and not one of those albums been "self-reflective"?

I think you underestimate what self-reflection is.

It's facing and expressing uncomfortable truths about yourself.

Jay Z is an excellent poet, but his appeal is that he paints more vivid pictures than the average dope boy turned millionaire.

I'll ask this again, what has Jay Z revealed to you about himself that doesn't paint him a good/sympathetic light?

ALL OF THEM

See above