Rapper who normally would rap about vapid materialistic bullshit and how much richer he was that everybody else finally makes a full album where he is introspective/reflective and reveals his many flaws, shortcomings, and fears as a father/family man.

It was a "big deal" for Jay Z, but it's something that has been done many times before by the contemporaries of his time.

I remember when my Aux cord broke around the time this album came out and the radio stayed playing the very annoying title track. one of my least favorite Jay albums but Marcy Me, Legacy & OJ are fire

Kanye barely rapped on Welcome to the Jungle this is Drake stan propaganda

Still a good album though. Definitely one of his better post Black Album projects.

This is delusional cope

WTT is basically a Kanye West album and Kanye was 100 times better on like 90% of the songs

Jay is literally my goat but i think on that song kanye’s one verse was better than the two Jay verses

Extreme exaggeration

They were equal on most of the tracks

Not a single song on there Kanye just completely out rapped Jay

Not a single song? Lol

You gonna list out the songs he got “vastly out rapped on?”

Cuz it definitely wasn’t the intro track

It just feels like Jay is past trying to prove something on here, He’s already done that for his whole career. I think the whole “mature album” idea is beyond just subject matter

People wanting a 4:44 type album from Eminem is not that crazy. Em is 53 still trying to get it like it’s 2001 and that just comes off corny to a lot of people. There’s nothing left for him to prove at this point

Not even a wild statement

Kanye carried who gon stop me imo but there’s like 13 tracks on the album

Anyone saying Kanye “washed” Hov on the entire album has the Stan goggles on too tight

Stan goggles for sure. Always the same excuses

Kanye washed him on most songs

Not an answer

4:44 was basically an upgraded version of Kingdom Come with much better music.

Jay been introspective even before KC though. You just have to listen to his deep cuts.

Em's dropped way way way more bad music than Jay lmfao

And I think both are 2 of the best to ever speak into a microphone but can we please be fr

I'd even say something like Never Change or Song Cry is introspective and personal, and those are like, as high up as album cuts can get in his catalogue (song cry was even a single so like lol)

It's just that he's not dragging himself through the mud for cheating or giving business advice

I agree but that’s how fans are for every artist

Black people in the projects aren’t the vast majority. Nice try

Only bad album Em has dropped is Revival.

MMLP2 is average

The rest are good to great.

OP a f***ing goofy man

true. i just re-listened to the whole album and if I set aside the annoying stans and how i much i don't like jay, its a very good album. maybe even great. the writing by itself is objectively amazing

Some of you should kill yourselves

Good music is celebrated so people celebrate it

Rapper who was known as relative playboy and wealth flaunter making an album about family/marriage and long term financial literacy after a cheating scandal in the final stretch of the monoculture era

Jay’s discog is still leagues better