Bro have you never had a conversation about philosophy or politics? The most self centered view would be to only care what leftists like me care about and not care about what capitalists who think like the question I posed would feel about the changes I want made to society.

The overwhelming majority of the population believe it or not, actually subscribes to the “boo hoo f*** them people I want my insert materialistic item here” literally all across the world. Mainly because of the point you all raise that under this magical communist nation we’d somehow have entertainers who somehow aren’t considered the elite class BECAUSE working people need time off from working so much. THAT is actually why most people today feel what you described as “self centered” because most people don’t have the luxury to give a f*** about the rest of the world’s struggles. They have their own at home.

So I mean yeah you guys can keep having your revolutionary discussions or you can try to make this ideology actually appeal to people instead of calling them self centered for not being full blown marxists lmfao.

Like sure on it’s face “boo hoo f*** them ppl I want my PS5” sounds disgusting. But at the end of the day I’m talking about supply and demand and simply saying instead of completely eradicating the economic system and reshaping it from the inside out I’d like it to stay somewhere relative to where it is. If that sounds so self centered to you then so be it. But may I propose this question: what isn’t self centered about your desire for a communist society?

You realise poverty and scarcity is the norm for humanity? And that prosperity like we have now is a new thing?

It was nice talking to you but I can’t in good faith continue a conversation with someone who I ask to teach me, who’s opinions I engaged with, yet would reduce everything I’ve said to something so dishonest and mischaracterizing

Under communism there will be way more console options, not just ps and xbox

Socialists: You’re not listening

Me: No I just don’t agree with you

That has been this entire thread

there’s nothing to agree with

it simply is how it works vs your notion of how it works

Socialists: 'Socialism is the path to communism and it won't immediately be communism when coming from a capitalist society with so much wealth inequality'

KOLLAPS: 'Where am I going to get my playstation when people are devoting funds to fixing infrastructure and hunger oh DAMMIT '

Socialists: People are dying due to extreme corporate greed

KOLLAPS: I don't care. Me want ps5. me want surround sound

You will only find such few people in life willing to even engage with this kind of thought

What is the purpose of villianizing them for simply questions your proposed methods of economics?

Man y’all got it f***ed up if you think the government is gonna provide for you like that and think we all gonna get get it’s f***ed up but you gotta hustle cause they don’t give a f*** about us no damn white man giving me s*** for free to dangle over my head and say he owe me nah I’ll get it myself f*** the bullshit don’t mean I don’t like communism but nah f*** them

Yeah. everybody needs a planet and housing, they will get that. Whoever needs a ps5 as well, will get that too.

All on the foundation of the very capitalist system you claim to hate as well

Yall have your cake and eat it too

I disagree.

if u batman (rich) im the joker (mental health issues and obsessive) and we in love please