i think the point that hes missing is the dude working at a s***ty warehouse doesn't hate lebron lmao mainly because they realist that lebron james isnt the root of their oppression.
Im not missing that at all
You said "when you fail"
do you think you could make a nfl roster ? be honest.
i think the point that hes missing is the dude working at a s***ty warehouse doesn't hate lebron lmao mainly because they realist that lebron james isnt the root of their oppression.
That has nothing to do with the point I’m making
yeah, if you aren't a top tier athlete you're going to fail at trying to be in the nfl
How do you know hes not an athlete
do you think you could make a nfl roster ? be honest.
If i wanted to i probably could
Not all sports players are naturally talented lmao if you worked towards that s*** you could
You get what im saying tho, right? In that I completely understand what you mean and agree the latter situation is much better but it’s the individualism within humans that don’t allow them to understand this nor understand that they’d probably have to make some sort of sacrifice (aka you probably wont get your yeezus stage within your lifetime but maybe in the future someone else can) is the #1 reason why people do not f*** with communism right?
Well I mean people who aren’t brainwashed by propaganda rather just actually disagree with communist principles in practice
no, i don't get what youre saying lmao. we're not going to have the human nature argument. its ridiculous and not rooted in anything that any of us understand to any meaningful extent. there's nothing to me that suggest humans are incapable of working collectively in pursuit of the common good
If there’s jobs that nobody wants to do, we could use robots.
Thank you for an answer to this!
In your eyes should labor bots be something we should start building now under capitalism or are you scared of where automation will go under capitalism?
Or do you think it may even be the catalyst for socialism?
That has nothing to do with the point I’m making
you said that coal miners would hate someone like obj and i provided a example under our current system to show you how stupid you sounded
@spongebob before we get into a semantics battle im basically asking how do you ensure 100% employment?
there’s a few different ways to look at this i guess, and 100% is kinda crazy but
One: since we’re moving in to the future we’ll need help in all types of new developments, technology, communication, along with the basic things a society needs to function until some of that stuff can be automated so humans don’t have to do some of the worse jobs
i would say the energy sector and making sure developing the most responsible yet effective methods is a place where many people could be employed,
it does take some imagination because 20 years ago no one would have predicted where we’d be today, fully.
think about all the issues that need fixing in the world, that’s grounds for increase in employment. strategizing, actually putting it into action, better diplomacy, etc all is grounds for employment
That being said, it’s hard to answer definitely how to guarantee 100% employment i’ve done a small amount of reading and know it’s one of the socialist demands that everyone has a right to a job, although i mean people will still be dealing with whatever immediate things are going on in their life, not just automatons
This all connects, in my eyes, back to the fact that a system that prioritizes profit and surplus at #1 over the well-being/betterment of conditions of human beings is a system in which people are not being employed enough for things humans need the most.
it connects to other materialistic parts of culture while ignoring the bad conditions amidst all the flashy s*** so that we don’t come together and demand better for each other
because russell wilson is a top tier athlete while you are not? nothing is stopping you from trying tho, but when you fail, well, lol.
And if I don’t wanna do anything else with my life? Just live off the basic necessitates of the government?
Not trynna be dismissive foreal wanna know your thoughts cuz were finally heading down the convo I wanted to have
If i wanted to i probably could
Not all sports players are naturally talented lmao if you worked towards that s*** you could
how old are you and whens the last time you played organized football?
And if I don’t wanna do anything else with my life? Just live off the basic necessitates of the government?
Not trynna be dismissive foreal wanna know your thoughts cuz were finally heading down the convo I wanted to have
sure.
no, i don't get what youre saying lmao. we're not going to have the human nature argument. its ridiculous and not rooted in anything that any of us understand to any meaningful extent. there's nothing to me that suggest humans are incapable of working collectively in pursuit of the common good
Im not trynna have the human nature argument
Synopsis were actually getting somewhere you just gotta take off that shield and meet me halfway baby stop being so deffensive
of your ideals
at least entertain what im saying for gods sake lmao
how old are you and whens the last time you played organized football?
19 and never. But thats not the point im making
Deciding to be an athlete isnt a last minute decision. I decided years ago i didnt care about sports like that therefore i never tried lmao
Im not trynna have the human nature argument
Synopsis were actually getting somewhere you just gotta take off that shield and meet me halfway baby stop being so deffensive
of your ideals
at least entertain what im saying for gods sake lmao
if youre going to say this and that wont work because of individualism then yes, that is the human nature argument.
sure.
So how do you prevent the overarching majority of society from not just giving up on life because their passion project fell through but they at least have UBI or whatever provides you with your necessities?
no, i don't get what youre saying lmao. we're not going to have the human nature argument. its ridiculous and not rooted in anything that any of us understand to any meaningful extent. there's nothing to me that suggest humans are incapable of working collectively in pursuit of the common good
How bout the fact that its NEVER WORKED to suggest that
"Humans have never grown wings but theres nothing to suggest that humans are incapable of growing wings"
How bout the fact that its NEVER WORKED to suggest that
"never worked"
ok lol
if youre going to say this and that wont work because of individualism then yes, that is the human nature argument.
It’s not tho because I’m saying that individualistic perspective is subject to change
S*** maybe youre right actually lmao
Idek at this point nigga im just with you on universal healthcare I guess
We not gon get to a stateless moneyless society fam im sorry
Thats all I got in me for the night fun times everyone
That is the most viable route to equality. In the end we both want equality. We have different methods. I think the free market has a place within socialism because it offers benefits to us all. I don't think enough people want to sacrifice the benefits of the free market. Nationalisation of core industries, and regulate the free market more is the best route. I don't see the point in discussing idealistic approaches such as communism. It is not viable.
But the free market should never be mixed with basic human rights to housing etc. Neolibralism
Absolutely will never support anything even closely resembling neo liberalism.
we’re relatively in the same place i think we’re just not connecting on the basic theory, with has evolved and splintered into different sects but originated in its most popular form as socialism being the path to communism
Thank you for an answer to this!
In your eyes should labor bots be something we should start building now under capitalism or are you scared of where automation will go under capitalism?
Or do you think it may even be the catalyst for socialism?
I rather have robots under socialism.
Capitalism vs socialism is a philosophical debate at its core, it has nothing to do with practicality imo. Automation under capitalism it is indeed scary because the philosophy of that system will still be there, no issues solved.