Notice how the US is still a superpower

Wheres the USSR

lmfao

We live in a society where capitalism has worked

If we live under it still, after so many years its working

People can pick out the flaws yes, but we live under it nonetheless

Why are you so obsessed with semantics while promoting an ideology as nuanced as communism? It’s very frustrating.

My Yeezus tour a***ogy works with anybody that doesn’t want to dedicate their life to being a laborer towards building something they don’t give a f*** about but NEEDS people like that to build out their Yeezus looking stage. Or forget Yeezus bro any sort of abstract art that is not a direct necessity but costs tens of millions of dollars and requires multiple laborers who more than likely don’t give a s*** about the abstract art. People who want to live that type of lifestyle exist, and they need as an explanation as to what’s gonna happen to their Yeezus mountain stage Synopsis. And if you’re gonna take that statement literally don’t even respond but if you wanna engage with the a***ogy I’m making I’d love to hear your thoughts.

To be fair, I do think you are good at engaging in this. I do not sense hostility from you and you do discuss without ad hominems

so all of those don’t connect to the economic system and how it’s structured to protect the most wealthy and siphon off every penny possible from the working class

people do a lot of those things because of a lack of assistance, education, resources, they’re in desperation

these are all issues that would be focused on more under socialism as people would have a larger voice than when things are so corporatist and if you can’t see these ideas for anything other than old examples then we’re not really close to the same page i’m looking at the present and the future knowing the past and you’re looking at the past, not willing to envision the future and disregarding the signs of the present that point to capitalism’s failings.

By this logic you should get off KTT and get to a soup kitchen

The new elite class in communism is the party leaders and they're worse than the business elites of capitalism

don’t give me too much credit this composure is a facade.

The difference is in one society those people got lucky

And in the other we’re all supposed to be okay and actually democratically elect the people we want to hold elite positions in society while the rest of us have to work harsh conditions

And listen bro I understand why this is frustrating because OBVIOUSLY the latter is better as it is just a less s***ty version of what we live through today

But you are removing a very important aspect of humanity that we have yet to let go off and that is the concept of individualism. So long as humans care about that no amount of equality will mean s*** to them which has been the point ive been trynna make throughout this whole thread

u can’t say that one person is responsible for necessary changes that the government and corporations are actively working to prevent.

the well-being of the working class and pretty much the planet in the grand scheme of things is not up to synopsis lol. he’s just advocating for things to be better

Same. I want to fight people in real life over this. I literally want to meet up with Synopsis and scrape his face along the pavement until he phones the police on me. Those police officers he hates coming to protect him from me.

You realize it’s only the way you frame the question that makes it sound so evil right?

Inherently there’s nothing wrong with responding with a “yes” because this question is synonymous with “do you wish to change nothing” and changing nothing is objectively neither a positive nor a negative rather a neutral

You are trying to frame neutral positions as negative ones ala “silence is violence”

All while eating the cake

why do you keep magically pretending that the work conditions will be harsh lmao?

also there is no fact of the universe that says athletes have to be looked at as elite members of society

reminds me of Shell or BP tweeting: What’s your plan to protect the environment/prevent pollution?

This will sound corny as s*** but working on what you love and seeing the end result is enough reward for the real ones. The real ones are the ones who will work in entertainment.

The people who do it because of Lamborghinis and stuff will work on the production of Lamborghinis or something like that.

do y’all think peoples basic necessities should be met, given that we have the resources?

food water shelter education a job

or do you think that shelter is not a human right and should rather remain empty than house someone who you don’t deem deserving enough

uhm lol

.................bro what are you talking about?

Why do the working conditions for f***ing coal mines magically become less lethal under communism??????

Theyd still be around even if there wasnt capitalism lmao. You remember Tiananmen Square? All the USSR human rights violations? Those arent exclusive to capitalism

Looking at the past is all we have to go off instead of envisioning the future lmao. Im sure the USSR planned to be around forever and look what happened

The future is a concept nigga. The past is something we can look at. And looking at the past will tell you Communism is an L.

It only works in ideal conditions. Ideal conditions dont exist irl

Yes. Absolutely. That is my belief.

I want the very basic human rights of healthcare, housing, food/water etc taken care of. I think all people should be given these things. Things like boradband and phone lines should be nationalised too.

If I am a coal miner I am looking at OBJ like a f***ing elite I don’t care if we have the same wage or live in the same exact sized house and have all the exact same necessities lmao

Um?