You're making a disingenuous argument to try to get a cheap "gotcha" moment. Read my post and try again

Imagine actually getting upset over Westside Gunn's view on the trans people he's a street rapper for god sake haha

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That’s true, maybe I shouldn’t even have commented, my original comment was off the tweet alone. But you not lying. Can’t hate

There's levels to this and if we're talking about discrimination, Black people are still being murdered and minimized and violated in all kinds of ways.

Let's fix that FIRST instead of dividing focus to protest for other groups who are "minimized" by society.

Cause a white gay man is still white and will still be treated better then a black straight man in most cases

It’s cause black men are unfairly portrayed as hyper-masculine and transphobia and homophobia are usually attributed to hyper-masculinity. In reality, I’d say that the levels of homophobia in the black community are equivalent to the levels of homophobia in latino and conservative white communities. Overall, the level of homophobia in all those communities still pale in comparison to the level of homophobia in middle eastern/Muslim communities.

what?

Well it shouldn’t be compared because it divides the original statement. It just ain’t the same but I feel where you coming from

You don't have to pick and choose though? You can simultaneously be pro black-lives and also call out discrimination against trans people

They almost exclusively rap about shooting people in the brains and selling cocaine

I obviously condemn this tweet/his attitude, but why do you draw the line here lol

That’s what I was saying.

black trans women are some of the main ones being affected. literally being murdered

I think there's a part of me that just doesn't get what type of hurt or reaction there could be when somebody makes an argument like this because I'm not black which could play into me missing something on this. I don't think anyone making this point is trying to downplay racism or the effects it's had on our society, I really think it comes from a well-intentioned place of "We have an example of how f***ed up humans can be and that damage still exists today, we should never allow that to happen again" is my view on it.

Pedophilia is a mental disorder that makes you attracted to young children while attraction to teens is a moral issue but not a medical condition. However as a society we decided that consent could not be given when you’re under 18 (or 16 or 21 depending on the country) so my answer is about teens too.

No? Let's fix both at the same time. This isn't an either/or situation and you need to stop deflecting to try to make it seem like people are ignoring black struggles by defending trans people. I can assure you that virtually EVERYONE who cares about trans rights fully supports BLM. I've been to 7 different protests this year for BLM and at one point I got tear gas in my eyes that was so bad I had to go to the hospital. I've donated to a ton of causes. I do everything I can to educate my ignorant family members and friends. Doesn't mean I can't also fight for trans rights and acceptance. We as a society can do better in all areas

My nigga, you dont know black history so please stop pimping it to push for trans support. You dont need it, respectfully.

I want you to go through your post again and realize how you went from bewildermen to hate again, these are not the same thing.

And you cant claim it’s not a competition while you and many others keep bringing up the 400+ years of state sanctioned VIOLENCE and abuse against a people for their skin color to drum up support for trans people to be recognized as their gender and be treated fairly by their fellow man.

Hell black people are still fighting for their humanity right now lol

Well are you saying that that we shouldnt address trans issues because it's not related to black issues? Or are you saying that we shouldn't address their specific plight? Both are wrong. To be comparative in this is very reductionist, there are LGBTQ, straight/cis, male, female black people and while the issues which face them all should be the forefront, to say that it diverts focus to acknowledge a specific is simply not true. If we can't acknowledge the nuances then how would we go about fixing at all? It doesn't "divert" focus to point the specific struggles a specific people in the black community face. All it does is add another obstacle to overcome. If we can't even acknowledge their struggles, and we isolate them to outside the black community, then we're only adding to the problems.

Nobody is surprised wsg said this but the thread is full of people asking why people are surprised wsg is transphobic

See this is what I'm talking about. You won't even acknowledge the issues.

How did this get 40 pages, probs would had guessed this was his opinion

His just not educated enough on this subject which is fine. Lots people don't understand it

Do you want us to lie and pretend to be shocked

No im just saying these people didnt read the thread but still comment on it

But why is it always us getting drawn into the convo, we can’t ever have s*** for ourself we always get tied into something which is what bothers me the most.

White LGBT folks have always had the option, no matter how painful, to keep their orientation private and escape discrimination.

Blacks dont have that option. We are black 24/7/365

People started excusing the ignorance as harmless.