Water Giver

4y

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2017 forward to today, the gen after the Cole, Drake, Kendrick, Uzi, Travis, Future, Young Thug etc. era.

Juice Wrld dead, Xxxtentacion dead, Pop Smoke dead, King Von dead, Lil Peep dead, Drakeo the Ruler dead, YNW Melly jail, RondaNumbaNine jail, Pooh Shiesty jail, Tay K jail, Rod Wave arrested might go to jail, 03 Greedo jail, Valee basically retired to do sculpting, Sheck Wes basically retired to do basketball, 6ix9ine fell off, Cordae fell off, Trippie Redd fell off, Roddy Ricch fell off, DaBaby seems to be falling off etc.

Almost everyone has died, arrested/jailed, quit or fell off. Dying being the biggest then jailing being the second biggest.

On top of that, Covid happened. So a lot of projects, opportunities, tours, signings, hype, buzz, collabs etc. for newer artists fell flat.

These Artists falling in unfortunate circumstances plus Covid made us skip a generation & extended the prior generation's run/era even further. Im of course talking mainstream & major underground, & of course not everyone is gone. Most, especially the big players & leaders are tho.

The big Artists of the next gen, which should be now, are all gone. I dont think people really realize how big of a deal that is & the ramifications. How bad it altered the genre's timeline. It takes 2 to 4 years for a Rapper to pop or at the very least get realitively relevant. The Artists that already put in that work to pop in the next era, are now gone. That means the next crop of artists that was/are/were suppose to come after the Xxx, Juice, Pop era are still "training".

• And their impact & influence does not exist/extend as much as it should/would due to early untimely deaths & jailings, meaning the next-next gen doesnt have an "elder" to gain from either as much. Unlike how Drake, Kendrick & Cole had Kanye, Lil Wayne & 50 Cent to look at & build off from. So repetition of already styles & concepts are more likely to happen for that era, instead of evolving. Thats just my own speculation tho, time will really tell.

Regardless, there is no stop-gap. We skipped a whole gen + sound & have to wait for the next-next gen to stop by without anything here in the meantime.

I believe this is why the previous gen Artists I mentioned above in the beginning are still so dominate. The people to past the baton too got injured, with only a very few survivors left like Baby Keem, & the next crop slowly happening like Yeat. So the vets are "holding it down" for the time being.

Its terrible. This has never happened in any genre I dont think, even in Rap beforehand. Closes example are the 2Pac & Biggie deaths, & imo we're lucky the Rap genre of today didnt crash. Niggas died & went to jail bro. We're talking dozens & dozens. And many of them were huge, or uprising to be huge. A lot of people did support & we're rooting for them.

Wether you liked those artists or not (looking at you, fellow bitter old niggas), its an unprecedented scenario. Its a sad timeline.

No other genre has to deal with this. Within 3 to 5 years we lost a whole class, a whole era. Literally the whole now generation & the next movement.

And we wonder why the genre feels slow, or that there is not too many new faces at the moment...

ialexlopes

4y

very true post, and on top of that you got a lot of artists from the previous generation phoning in on their most recent output, so that's why if feels so recycled/dry/uninspired for hip hop right now.

we had this similar feeling with alternative/indie rock not too long ago, and it's being revived by great acts like ethel cain, black midi, black country new road, etc

but i still have faith in hiphop... it's bound 2 happen anytime soon now

Phlegm

4y

I see new country black road mentioned a lot n I end up feeling bad for not liking their music that much, same for black midi.

v12

4y

this nigga rooting for racial feet lady and a tweetdecker

Shammy

4y

Summrs arrested, kankan beats his gf, autumn fakes his mugshots, iayze snitches, goonie look like he got hit by a shrink gun, where does it end?

ialexlopes

4y

you dont need to feel bad for not liking them... sometimes it takes a lot of getting used to their sound, and even after listening to it multiple times you might discover they are not for you...

everyone has different tastes

cold mountain

4y

rino out on bail

kankan be like so what

autumn grown a lot since that bs

f*** iayze

lmao do i have to respond to the goonie one

Shammy

4y

i forgot to add weiland was abducted by aliens and returned 30 years from the past and izaya tiji is schizophrenic

this jus a joke tho i love all them niggas music

phil trout

4y

So many artists y'all are missing out on by dwelling on the flavor of last month. I agree the big names have been disappointing us lately and it's sad to see a lot of artists who had some hits at the end of the 2010's fall out of fame, but that's the nature of popular art. +The underground has been flourishing that whole time.

Shammy

4y

i forgot to add weiland was abducted by aliens and returned 30 years from the past and izaya tiji is schizophrenic

this jus a joke tho i love all them niggas music