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  • May 9, 2021
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    notesfromphilo

    the history

    of course we shouldn't be ashamed
    what we did to it is why we are who we are
    but that doesn't take away from the food being slave food

    that is what it is

    and that's why i feel like we should stop eating it

    just off the principle

    what do we have to prove
    what are we holding on to?

    okay, yes we know we can make fire food out of bullshit

    but at what point do we use our powers for more than what we've been doing?

    to me, saying we shouldn't consider moving past this is saying

    "i am okay eating what the masters gave me even to this day"

    doesn't matter if we can make it bomb as f***
    it is STILL the food that white people didn't want

    that just doesn't feel right to me

    i strongly disagree with you. this argument feels very "new black" to me, not to slight you.

    no black person is thinking about slavery and slaveowners when they cook yams and hamhocks. what is so bad about eating the same food my enslaved ancestors ate? why should this bother me? we aren't enslaved any more. white people are not forcing us to eat any of this food. we eat it because we like it and we are used to it. we make the conscious choice now as free black people to eat this traditional food. that is not bad.

    who gives a f*** what a white person thinks? i don't operate with respectability politics.

  • May 9, 2021
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    goddess

    i strongly disagree with you. this argument feels very "new black" to me, not to slight you.

    no black person is thinking about slavery and slaveowners when they cook yams and hamhocks. what is so bad about eating the same food my enslaved ancestors ate? why should this bother me? we aren't enslaved any more. white people are not forcing us to eat any of this food. we eat it because we like it and we are used to it. we make the conscious choice now as free black people to eat this traditional food. that is not bad.

    who gives a f*** what a white person thinks? i don't operate with respectability politics.

    i respect your stance

    but i'm curious about what "new black" means to you

    i don't take offense to it but i'm not sure what you mean by it

  • May 9, 2021
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    notesfromphilo

    i respect your stance

    but i'm curious about what "new black" means to you

    i don't take offense to it but i'm not sure what you mean by it

    "new black" is a disingenuous stance that some black people have. its the idea that they want black people to do better when in reality they just want black people to look more appealing to white people.

  • May 9, 2021
    goddess

    i strongly disagree with you. this argument feels very "new black" to me, not to slight you.

    no black person is thinking about slavery and slaveowners when they cook yams and hamhocks. what is so bad about eating the same food my enslaved ancestors ate? why should this bother me? we aren't enslaved any more. white people are not forcing us to eat any of this food. we eat it because we like it and we are used to it. we make the conscious choice now as free black people to eat this traditional food. that is not bad.

    who gives a f*** what a white person thinks? i don't operate with respectability politics.

    also,

    my point is

    i'm not sure how many of us are making a conscious decision

    you seem to be, which is beautiful

    i just want everybody to have the opportunity to make that choice

    versus just doing what they are used to

    that's my role i believe

  • May 9, 2021
    goddess

    "new black" is a disingenuous stance that some black people have. its the idea that they want black people to do better when in reality they just want black people to look more appealing to white people.

    ah, i see

    i will be mindful of this as i don't want to come off that way

    i appreciate your thoughts

  • May 9, 2021

    i think we should sell soul food as an experience
    maybe that'd be a good government program
    open up more black businesses

    that seems like the right way
    to celebrate what we came from

    although i still believe we should monitor our own intake
    and we should continue to look toward the future...

    is that a happy medium?

  • May 9, 2021
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    Sidebar grits are f***in disgusting and I got no shame calling that s*** some slave food

  • May 9, 2021
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    Smacked Voodoo

    Sidebar grits are f***in disgusting and I got no shame calling that s*** some slave food

    IT IS JUST FOOD

  • May 9, 2021
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    Good discussion itt

    Good job @op

  • May 9, 2021
    Orpheus

    OH yo this thread got me remembering things

    soul food is evolving

    there's this one spot in hyde park in chicago that is pretty much a high-end soulfood restaurant, it's kinda sick, it's called virtue

    just wanted to shout them out

    looks dope

    thanks for the rec

    virtuerestaurant.com

  • May 9, 2021

    don't really know what to say other than

    thank you for expressing this

    gonna add it to OP

  • May 9, 2021
    SHAQUILLE

    Good discussion itt

    Good job @op

  • May 9, 2021
    goddess

    i strongly disagree with you. this argument feels very "new black" to me, not to slight you.

    no black person is thinking about slavery and slaveowners when they cook yams and hamhocks. what is so bad about eating the same food my enslaved ancestors ate? why should this bother me? we aren't enslaved any more. white people are not forcing us to eat any of this food. we eat it because we like it and we are used to it. we make the conscious choice now as free black people to eat this traditional food. that is not bad.

    who gives a f*** what a white person thinks? i don't operate with respectability politics.

    adding to OP

  • May 9, 2021
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    Not Like Josuke

    Need to move past chitlins tho

    why the f*** was this ever a thing to begin with

    I was heavy on this wave until I was watching a morray interview and dude made me think about how hot dogs/any type of "bagged" sausage and chitlins are lowkey the same s***

  • May 9, 2021
    user

    I was heavy on this wave until I was watching a morray interview and dude made me think about how hot dogs/any type of "bagged" sausage and chitlins are lowkey the same s***

  • May 9, 2021
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    Smacked Voodoo

    Sidebar grits are f***in disgusting and I got no shame calling that s*** some slave food

    Now yall niggas f***ing tripping

    lmaoo nigga its butter and salt ooze how is it nasty?!

  • May 9, 2021
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    speaking of how chitlins and hotdogs/sausage the same s*** yall boys ever had liver pudding?

    idk how to describe the taste it's like salty meaty grits lmao i only eat it wit grits tho

    It looks and sounds nasty but I promise this s*** hits wit some buttery grits my grandma pmo as a kid before i could really think about what i was eating lmao

    real niggas mix the eggs, bacon, liver pudding and grits all together with a big ass glob of butter on top

  • May 9, 2021
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    notesfromphilo

    but i'm a black dude

    and i said "are we"

    i'm included in this

    i want us to grow as a people

    and i think now is the time

    make healthy food more accessible instead of shaming niggas for eating what they can afford.

    /thread

  • May 9, 2021
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    insertcoolnamehere

    make healthy food more accessible instead of shaming niggas for eating what they can afford.

    /thread

    you believe people eat soul food because it's affordable?

  • May 9, 2021
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    notesfromphilo

    you believe people eat soul food because it's affordable?

    I don't believe, I'm literally telling you as someone that's been vegan all his life that it literally cost more to deliberately buy healthier alternatives than it do to buy pork.

  • May 9, 2021
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    user

    speaking of how chitlins and hotdogs/sausage the same s*** yall boys ever had liver pudding?

    idk how to describe the taste it's like salty meaty grits lmao i only eat it wit grits tho

    It looks and sounds nasty but I promise this s*** hits wit some buttery grits my grandma pmo as a kid before i could really think about what i was eating lmao

    real niggas mix the eggs, bacon, liver pudding and grits all together with a big ass glob of butter on top

    this a southern dish?

  • May 9, 2021
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    insertcoolnamehere

    I don't believe, I'm literally telling you as someone that's been vegan all his life that it literally cost more to deliberately buy healthier alternatives than it do to buy pork.

    this is true

    but i'm not convinced people would buy
    healthier options just because it's comparable in price

    and that's why i'm discussing the cultural piece

  • May 9, 2021
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    notesfromphilo

    IT IS JUST FOOD

    Yup. Slave food.