Iyrtitl out now

I mean yea Drake is extremely marketable but I just want to remind you that there was a point where Big Sean was more present and active than any of the big 3

All I’m saying is, they were making the same type of music at a certain point.

None of those f***ing songs hold a weight to

Nice for what
God's plan
Passion Fruit
Feel No ways
Controlla
Girls want Girls

For his career. Why do y'all want him to fail?

Half and half. Ignoring “he’s a better rapper”, I’d argue drakes sound as a hip hop artist was always way more appealing , even if they had similar subject matter/focuses. Also, Drake always genuinely dipped into R&b/singing/slightpop which gave him a large secondary fanbase.

People view those songs as pop music
Not authentic confessions like King Von or Pop Smoke

I really don’t understand the whole “street facade” take at all

I posted this the other day but I’ll post this here again bc it’s relevant:

#1 most of the people who say this never seen the hood a day in they life

#2 He never lied about where he was from or his background or none of that. He never lied about being in the streets. And as someone who grew up in a household with a nigga who sold crack and also got in shootouts on the regular I will tell you this: hood niggas do not have a monopoly on masculinity. Half of the s*** yall think is hood s*** is actually just MAN s***. You don’t have to be from the hood to not take s*** from anyone and stand on business. You don’t have to be from the hood to be confident and competitive. You don’t have to be from the hood to be confrontational. You don’t have to be from the hood to own a gun and protect yourself and you certainly don’t have to be from the hood to have a crew that will crash out for you. That’s not hood s***, that’s man s***

Y’all think just bc he’s not “from the hood” he should be a soft spoken beta or something and it really just shows where y’all principles as men are at truth be told

Y’all holla at me when this nigga fake claim a set or say he sold d**** or is from somewhere he not

Are you people sheltered whites? What street facade? 14 years ago he rapped about someone catching a body around him on the lead single of Take Care what are we doing here?

If you’re reading this it’s too late.

He was a fan of all that d*** talk rap before he rapped.

He was a huge fan of Pusha T.

Its what he wanted, that lifestyle.

He needed the street anthems to fully crossover into all the lanes he was doing

Preach

This post dumb as hell cause

D*** talk rappers are not street rappers at all lmao

this an American expression of blackness which everyone misses isn't even an "American black" experience..... we have to grow up. its' no different than glasses malone tweeting that its reason #102 why you're not like us. the idea helicopters flying over houses dictate blackness is a white political game.

best Drake album imo

Is that what Kendrick is doing when millions pretend like they grew up west west west....? I guess I'm just a mixed white guy who doesn't get it. I just want people to stop acting like art come from anything other than experience and influence. Two black or mixed folks growing up on the east vs the west do not have the same monolithic experience but who cares.

Love Ya'll.

What A Time To Be Alive.

I see what you’re saying but in context of Drake and Kendrick there’s a distinct background difference and people have been pointing this out about Drake for a decade or two

No one is saying this about J Cole because we all know or can assume that his proximity to lower middle class black experiences is more credible than the guy on Degrassi

When would we say it really started? Because I feel like at his biggest (views) he wasn’t leaning into it.

he didn't do it for sales lmao

IYRTITL

Content wise I don’t really see that tbh. What song come to mind?

Not only the content he was spittin but the energy shifted on this project imo

If you dig into Drake's background between being poorer in a middle class school, neighborhood, white mom black dad, having to adjust socially etc.. it lines up with the general black xp of otherization. Drake & J. Cole moms both white and poor without a dad only diff is geography. There is a vid of a like 6-9 yr old Drake singing / rapping classics with his Dad in Memphis. 1st tape was a southern smoke tape. opened for Ice Cube & Mos Def in 06 was writing for Dre in 05/06. We just want to sperate based on idk. he was late teens early 20's.