Nuts that drakes best song this decade was written by yachty. Jumbotron s*** poppin a classic song. Overdrive is incredible as well
I’ll just say this
Think Drake lost the ability to claim #1 OAT after 2015 (fair or not) that has done irreparable damage to his writing credit. From there the last two beefs combined with the amount of tracks floating out there is really starting to make it hard to objectively place him in the top 5. He’s still my favorite artist and I have no doubt his most intimate work was through him, but I can’t argue as people decide to knock him further and further down the list
He hasn't lost the ability to claim s***. People who wanna knock him down can do whatever they want but everything from his run of dominance, to his hits to his overall catalog will always give him a legitimate claim as the #1 guy. It's an open secret in the rap game that NOBODY, especially in the mainstream rap space, has written ALL their s*** dating back to their debut albums.
You might not hear reference tracks but it's many rappers we put in the GOAT conversation who have several rumours swirling around of people giving them bars or even entire song ideas and concepts. That's why some OG rappers will never knock Drake down regardless.
i was wondering the other day:
how long do you think drake hasn’t written his music?
were all those raps on so far gone given to him too?
how deep is the rabbit hole?
You’re dragging it tbh
if jay had writers there’s nothing you could do to change the minds of anyone about it lol
nobody would care and nobody would downplay his legacy
Yes let’s pretend Nas stans don’t exist
the reality is .... this perception of ye has changed over time as he got caught using writers
people used to call ye one of the best rappers in the LR + CD days
Maybe one of the best up and coming rappers early on but he wasn’t getting the “GOAT” label slapped on him for his rapping the same way Drake does
That’s the difference. No one has called him the best rapper in years.
It is interesting people upset he took a yachty and cash cobain record and a vory record. If them niggas released that on they own nobody would give a f*** about them songs now niggas do
Outside of that, those songs wouldn't be half as good. Again, call me when references for Drake's most lyrical/personal songs leak. Until then, miss me with all this s***.
He's said himself that he's obsessed with new flows and new rhyme pockets. If he gets ideas for that from other artists every now and then, I really and truly do not give a f***.
Maybe one of the best up and coming rappers early on but he wasn’t getting the “GOAT” label slapped on him for his rapping the same way Drake does
That’s the difference. No one has called him the best rapper in years.
agree but im saying... the same transition is happening to drake now
used to be known for his pen... now for his "artistry" or i guess ability to create a product and sell it
i was wondering the other day:
how long do you think drake hasn’t written his music?
were all those raps on so far gone given to him too?
how deep is the rabbit hole?
there’s no wondering
drake has had help writing since Degrassi days
Look up Nickelus F
People outraged credited writers helped write
I think the most braindead take I’ve ever seen on this site is a reference track exists = that person wrote every word of a song
Anyway outrage for outrage sake sounds exhausting
agree but im saying... the same transition is happening to drake now
used to be known for his pen... now for his "artistry" or i guess ability to create a product and sell it
In that case we agree 🤝
He will be credited for his Influence and longevity in the genre as one of the biggest ever.
snoop becoming a product gave him the biggest out because literally nobody cared that jay wrote his parts on still dre
i think over time us older folks realize a lot of rap is "fake"
but when i was younger and i found out Jay and Ye ain't write the Who Gon Stop Me hook????
Broke my heart bro for real
that's when i started realizing how the game really works
s*** like finding out santa not real bro
rappers are superheroes!!!
Nuts that drakes best song this decade was written by yachty. Jumbotron s*** poppin a classic song. Overdrive is incredible as well
That's prolly my fav song from him this decade but the first time I heard it I knew it wasn't his pen lol.
snoop becoming a product gave him the biggest out because literally nobody cared that jay wrote his parts on still dre
Didn't Cube have to write most of the the lyrics in NWA? Nothing new to Dre
Tbh finding out that Eminem wrote Dre's lyrics for The Watcher was the hip hop illusion shattering moment for me back in the day lol
Didn't Cube have to write most of the the lyrics in NWA? Nothing new to Dre
Tbh finding out that Eminem wrote Dre's lyrics for The Watcher was the hip hop illusion shattering moment for me back in the day lol
i literally forget that snoop has no verse on still dre every single time lol
but the point still stands
Please let's not overrate Abel's contributions to Take Care lmao.
Abel wrote take a shot for me.
Drake been ain’t writing.
Drake is Rihanna/Beyonce status.
well this doesn't have the "doot dooooo" ad lib in the hook so he didn't even write the best part
Didn't Cube have to write most of the the lyrics in NWA? Nothing new to Dre
Tbh finding out that Eminem wrote Dre's lyrics for The Watcher was the hip hop illusion shattering moment for me back in the day lol
Can’t touch the original but his vocal tone is so perfect that beat

I think Drake has written a sizeable amount of his music. I don’t think we can take away his ability to write completely. He’s a good writer and he’s proven it before.
I do think however, that his versatility in flows and deliveries is definitely in question after this. Who knows which pockets and creative choices really came from his mind when Yachty writing Jumbotron and Cash Cobain writing Calling For You for example.
Drake has the same flow from 2009-2015 until QM wrote for him. And when he stole XXXs flow that one time.