Some truly insane post itt man
Welcome to ktt where you are punished for thinking critically.
I'm literally F tier s***post trolling your stupid ass because you're saying deadbeats are fine you idiot
Bro thats still your responsibility lmao what
Where's her responsibility should she choose to abort it?
yall keep tryna make these things seem equal but yall realize a woman can also abandon her child right
women and men can both abandon....but only a woman can have an abortion. there is no equals here
@op you are right on this issue and numerous men over the years have voiced the same concern.
In my opinion, men’s right to abandon should be equivalent to how long women have the right to abort.
If you abandon after the legal amount time you have to do so, then you should still be held financially responsible. However, if you abandon within the abortion window then you should only have to pay a one-time abandonment fee that will be paid to the mother come birth and be done. Similar to how women have to pay for an abortion.
Now if you abandon, you do not have the legal right to try to establish a relationship later until the child is 18, in which case they are grown. If you attempt to come back in the picture, then you should be charged with a crime and be given a restraining order.
If the woman doesn’t tell you she’s pregnant until after the window for you to abandon, then you should still have the right to abandon for at least 30 days past the day you were informed.
Abandonment fee 😂😂😂 holy F***
Welcome to ktt where you are punished for thinking critically.
Not the free thinker argument
I'm literally F tier s***post trolling your stupid ass because you're saying deadbeats are fine you idiot
You not really trolling me, I find the discussion amusing lmao
Nobody is skating past it. It just doesn’t matter. These are the risks involved with sex, and if you didn’t want it you should have been more careful or shouldn’t have had sex. It is as simple as that. You don’t need s***to live.
“ it just doesn’t matter”
There lies the problem lmao
Shawty can do whatever she wants and everything goes
The nigga just has to go along with it, even though it impacts his life
You not really trolling me, I find the discussion amusing lmao
Amuse your son my nigga
Abandonment fee 😂😂😂 holy F***
Women have to pay a fee for abortion, men should have to do the same if they choose to abandon. I’d only argue that fee be given to the women after giving birth, as that’s the least the abandoning father should do.
this is 1000% true if the condom broke or if the pregnancy was unintentional
if you intentionally impregnated her and ya'll had that conversation and decided to start that journey then thats your responsibility
if it was accidental then you have very right to walk out and you shouldn't be required to pay child support either
Why don’t you actually respond to what I said
Imagine you have a happy family, with a wife of 10 years and you guys have a 6 year old daughter. One day you come home to a note on the table that just says “bye”, with your wife and daughter gone
She decided she wasn’t happy with you anymore and is moving back in with her parents with your kid
You are f***ed, and there is little chance you can do anything about it
All facts no cap but if you want to have rights to your children as a man you’re a cringe men’s rights loser far right whatever other s*** these f***ers gon say lmfao
Anything criticizing the way things are done is met with shaming tactics
But y'all don't say that to the woman?
Well we can say that all day to the woman, sure. But we cannot force her to get an abortion. It is ultimately her call that you must comply with.
yall keep tryna make these things seem equal but yall realize a woman can also abandon her child right
women and men can both abandon....but only a woman can have an abortion. there is no equals here
As someone who's mom abandoned him, I know it all too well. For all that she could've left me on the chopping room floor. My dad didn't make the decision for me to be here, she did. So it's even weirder for moms to leave.
In my opinion, it takes two to make a child. If early in the pregnancy a man asks you to have an abortion, and you refuse, you're acknowledging he wanted nothing to do with the kid early and still choosing to go through with it. That's not on him.
I say this because in the same vain, if a woman is the one in the relationship that decides she isn't ready and gets an abortion there is nothing seen as wrong there. Would y'all agree?
I think you underestimate the impact having an abortion can have on people. If you are responsible for a fetus growing inside someone, you can't be surprised if someone isn't prepared to have an abortion. Not everyone agrees with it, not everyone would be prepared to have one even if they are pro choice.
A lot of things get lost among the abortion debate and one of them is that it's still a big deal for most women even if they are pro choice and would have one if it came to it.
In my opinion, once you have impregnated someone as an adult, it's already too late for you to run away, you've created something and should deal with the consequences and responsibility of that event, whatever happens.
If you knowingly have an STD and lie to a woman and say you don’t, and then she contracts it/gets it
She can sue you for damages. She only agreed to have s***with you under false pretenses
If a woman lies to you and says she’s on the pill or has an IUD, and you nut in her and she gets pregnant
You can not sue her, despite you only agreed to nut in her under false pretenses
U spitting facts in this thread. But as men we just need to go with the blows . It’s just the truth of the matter, legal system supports women more than men. Just a part of life.
You get 0 p**** so you don’t even need to be involved in this conversation
God damn this was a mean burn, this nigga was ready 😭😭😭
All facts no cap but if you want to have rights to your children as a man you’re a cringe men’s rights loser far right whatever other s*** these f***ers gon say lmfao
Anything criticizing the way things are done is met with shaming tactics
SIGN language
Shame, insult, guilt, & a need to be right
this is 1000% true if the condom broke or if the pregnancy was unintentional
if you intentionally impregnated her and ya'll had that conversation and decided to start that journey then thats your responsibility
if it was accidental then you have very right to walk out and you shouldn't be required to pay child support either
Still shouldn’t be in my opinion, because if a woman talked up wanting a baby and got pregnant she’d still be entitled to aborting if she chooses to.
Men should be afforded the same opportunity.
U spitting facts in this thread. But as men we just need to go with the blows . It’s just the truth of the matter, legal system supports women more than men. Just a part of life.
This is the main point tbh
It’s not fair but we know the rules and should live with it
Knowing everything we know about the laws if you out here nuttting in random women I feel zero sympathy for you
If you knowingly have an STD and lie to a woman and say you don’t, and then she contracts it/gets it
She can sue you for damages. She only agreed to have s***with you under false pretenses
If a woman lies to you and says she’s on the pill or has an IUD, and you nut in her and she gets pregnant
You can not sue her, despite you only agreed to nut in her under false pretenses
And like I told them earlier too about exes literally refusing to stop riding men when I was coming to the point I've had to throw them off. But to their logic if she got pregnant that's all on me even though I ain't want the kid lol
“ it just doesn’t matter”
There lies the problem lmao
Shawty can do whatever she wants and everything goes
The nigga just has to go along with it, even though it impacts his life
Correct. When you bring a child into the world your life is no longer yours, it is the child’s. You created them, you raise them.
U spitting facts in this thread. But as men we just need to go with the blows . It’s just the truth of the matter, legal system supports women more than men. Just a part of life.
Why are you not allowed to question or criticize that the legal system supports women more than men at all without being met with vitriol or accusations of hating women or being a loser or some dumb s*** like that?
Why do you just have to accept that? I thought its all about equality?
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