Niggas wanna be like fishes....fertilize and then swim away

let op cook

These niggas wild tryna argue about men’s rights and equality

You are taking this entirely too personal.

I would never abandon my child, period. But it doesn’t mean I shouldn’t have the right to as long as it matches up with what women are allowed to do.

Obviously you can’t abort a baby for a woman, therefore legal abandonment is the only right solution to even the playing field.

To put this in perspective, look at the freedom of speech.
There’s thing you shouldn’t say, but it doesn’t mean you shouldn’t be able to.

Freedom isn’t always positive.

Lol scared

Both are absolving yourself from parenthood? Y'all keep talking about the toll of pregnancy as leg to stand on, but that makes no sense when the woman is agreeing to put herself through that 9 months of carrying a child? Not like abortions are outlawed, then yeah abandonning your kid is kind of scummy. But when the resources are there, and the man is saying I don't want this, if you make the choice to continue with it you're essentially saying I know this child will not have a father that wants it but f*** it. And that should follow the man forever? But if she decides she isn't ready there absolutely no consequence.

No

Pre-cum has small amounts of sperm in it and can get a woman pregnant. Thats why pulling out is never 100% effective.

And you're only looking at this in terms of father vs mother. Thats where you're f***ing up. I can tell by the fact you keep referring to this hypothetical child as "something" and "it". Stick around for the kid. Just because you did okay in a one parent household doesn't mean that your kid will. Statistically speaking, kids do a lot better with two parents there for them. Do whats best for this child, because they'll be the real victim of you walking ouy.

Didn't I just say I been floating the idea of letting my girl peg me? We talking about child abandonment and you're in here mad more when aren't getting their a******s plowed lmao

Yes. She can. It is her call that you must comply with. It is not fair, but not all gender roles and responsibilities are fair. This is one of them. You knew the risks of unprotected s***with a random woman you had no feelings for. If you didn’t like the risks you should not have had s***with her.

Raising your child is part of being a man, whether or not it was planned. It’s not a question and it’s not a debate.

Bringing a child into the world when you know the nigha doesn’t want is a horrible thing to do. Idk why yall skating past this

Right, so if the choice to keep or abort a baby is completely up to the woman whether she takes your opinion into a account or not, then a man should be able to abandon on the same premise. That’s equality.

A man isn’t subjectively right to abandon, but he should have the right to make that decision even if it’s an unpopular one.

And if you read my previous post, I only believe in legal abandonment being on par with legal abortion with respects to the timeframe to make that decision.

A lot of people don’t like women who abort, and I honestly don’t blame them, however it doesn’t mean they shouldn’t have the right to abort even if it pisses a few people off.

Rights are rights, right or wrong.

If you knowingly have an STD and lie to a woman and say you don’t, and then she contracts it/gets it
She can sue you for damages. She only agreed to have s***with you under false pretenses

If a woman lies to you and says she’s on the pill or has an IUD, and you nut in her and she gets pregnant
You can not sue her, despite you only agreed to nut in her under false pretenses

I agree. Should be the ‘male abortion’ to chose not to be in the child’s life.

There’s downsides morally but same with a woman committing an abortion and I’m fine with both being legal.

Lol stop while u ahead they gon crucify ya Brodie

I'm literally F tier s***post trolling your stupid ass because you're saying deadbeats are fine you idiot

Some truly insane post itt man

A victim of their mothers creation. If you don't want to make a victim, then don't have it knowing the father wants no involvement and wait until you find a man that does want that involvement. You think forcing someone into fatherhood really produces good father's?

And precum is used to carry up sperm. If you pee before s***you will clear that track out your precum will not carry up sperm. So on paper, pulling out and condoms have the same effective rate when done 100% the proper way.

Nobody is skating past it. It just doesn’t matter. These are the risks involved with sex, and if you didn’t want it you should have been more careful or shouldn’t have had sex. It is as simple as that. You don’t need s***to live.

Nobody wanted to reply to that one bc they know it’s f***ed and shouldn’t be allowed to happen, legally

Legal abandonment would fix that issue.

Bro thats still your responsibility lmao what

But y'all don't say that to the woman?