oat milk

5y

i get what you're saying op.

if yall are f***ing with protection there obviously a mutual agreement to prevent a child.

if the girl gets knocked up and develops an emotional attachment, she suddenly has full authority to forgo that agreement without the goodwill or consent of the father.

the father now has the full burden of another human being on the whim on another persons emotions

but yeah, the title automatically paints your argument in a bad light

cigaM

5y

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u forced urself into fatherhood fckin a b**** raw u stupid little boy i hope everything u against happens to u so u learn

TIIMMY BURNER

5y

Okay now that you said that, tell me how that will make two nurturing loving parents.

red eagle

5y

I feel like your whole argument stands on just ignoring or downplaying how big of an advantage that choice is for a specific gender though.

A 16 year old girl who made a mistake can still salvage her adult life if she wants and go on to become educated and flourish. A 16 year old boy who made a mistake will have to get a s***ty job and waste the next 20 years of his life at that spot.

I mean I don't agree with OP but you can't just wave away this discrepancy as if it's not something that deserves to be discussed lol

oat milk

5y

it wouldn't be "deadbeat" because in this circumstance, it would be the mother knowing and allowing the situation of a fatherless child.

ch33zey

5y

The woman gets that “advantage” because she’s the only person who can get pregnant. This makes it fair

OnyxShine9

5y

No sane man or woman would ever agree to that.

oat milk

5y

turns out they do very often?

KalamariFromParty

5y

Which the woman chose to have happen ✍️✍️✍️

VA7a

5y

do you know how many kids suffered because people think this exact same thing?

ch33zey

5y

The woman gets that “advantage” because she’s the only person who can get pregnant. This makes it fair

Scratchin Mamba

5y

It's a childish and cowardly mentality tbh

TIIMMY BURNER

5y

In my opinion, it takes two to make a child. If early in the pregnancy a man asks you to have an abortion, and you refuse, you're acknowledging he wanted nothing to do with the kid early and still choosing to go through with it. That's not on him.

I say this because in the same vain, if a woman is the one in the relationship that decides she isn't ready and gets an abortion there is nothing seen as wrong there. Would y'all agree?

oat milk

5y

it only happens because the mother allows it to?

assuming she knows the father is not agreeing to a change in the original agreement, the mother is forcing it onto him.

the you nutted in her argument is bullshit. there was a mutual agreement for use of contraception, for a reason.

therefore, she would be responsible for bringing a child into a fatherless life. why are you absolving the mother of any responsibility?

Scratchin Mamba

5y

Imo the mother is irresponsible for bringing a child into this world knowing that the father won't take care of his child bc he won't take responsibility for his actions bc he's too much of a coward

Doesn't mean the father isn't a coward still

VA7a

5y

do you know how many kids suffered because people think this exact same thing?

oat milk

5y

a coward for not wanting what they both agreed they didn't want..?

VA7a

5y

so you’re telling me it’s fine for you to abandon an entire child that needs nurturing by both parents? you decided to nut in someone and get her pregnant it takes two to tango.

red eagle

5y

Well the woman has the ability to not be pregnant anymore. At the price of a medical procedure and a few days for recovery, the woman essentially has control over the next 20 years if her life.

The fact that this bargain isn’t available to a specific gender is the problem here.

Mafia Boss

5y

Her body her choice and her baby

Scratchin Mamba

5y

Yes

If you bring a child into this world you're responsible for it period, whether you wanted it or not

ch33zey

5y

It take two to make a baby