I just seen on here like 2 days ago old forum posts where Tyler is calling Kanye and Michael Jackson gay

Why are you guys choosing to die on this stupid ass hill

Goblin era Tyler not making a song that sounds like this, not writing these lyrics, not making this video

I think a lot of people who are super surprised by tyler’s progression followed him on a surface level

Tyler from day one has been saying he wasnt gonna be doing edgy music forever and wants to make “pretty” music so I don’t really feel for people who are thrown off by that change because it didnt come out of nowhere

Well duh he was 18/19 and broke af

I actually like his OF era music better too but this is the progression he promised

Ngl, you just don't know how to read people

Modern Tyler The Creator would tell you how brilliant Ye and MJ are, he wouldn't clown them and call them gay

Ngl, you sound like the "He not actually gay, he just trolling" niggas

He definitely would stop be childish. Listen, I'm not arguing lol

It's just pretty plain and simple that this is the same character from 20 years ago. He just 40 and not in our face

You have footage of Tyler and Kanye in the Cherry Bomb documentary while they're working on Smuckers. Is this the impression you get watching him talk to Kanye?

And that's circa 2015. By then already he had outgrown this edgy, contrarian, hating s*** he displayed online

Is he still a troll that likes to goof around? Yes. Can he still be a pretentious contrarian? Absolutely. But to say he's the same he's always been and "wtf do people mean he changed??" is being obtuse imo

You think how these KTT users talk to other users on the forum would speak like that in real life?

You expect a half African drama club kid with no African presence in their home would have the confidence to besmirch someone they idolize even though they troll him on the Internet? Lol

Did you expect him to call all celebs gay and tweet how he’s gonna f*** Selena Gomez in the ass for the rest of his life

And how much of that does he actually believe, or was he crying for attention?

"someone they idolize" exactly what I'm saying bruh. Does it sound like he idolizes him in 2008 when he made those posts?

Yes, it just looks like he's trolling

Ngl, you sound like the "He not actually gay, he just trolling" niggas

Said it like 4 posts ago, I know exactly what you are

Idc what sexual orientation he is

Or anyone else for that matter

I mean that image u linked shows how he switched up in 2011 after Kanye tweeted the Yonkers video so are u saying that by 2011 he already became everything he hated

Niggas use that excuse for every past controversial lyric/thought Tyler the Creator has expressed in the past At this point do we know what he actually f***s with or believes if everything can just be waved away with "He was trolling"

Why you care so much?

You replied to me first

I'm still replying and I didn't mean that in a snarky way, just wondering why this is triggering you?

Real question did Tyler ever preach against materialism? This kinda reminds me of that moment when Frank fans were upset he wasn’t a socialist because that was the head cannon they created for him

Triggered? We having a discussion, haven't called you names or anything

Keep Da Os. Didn't preach against but that lil clip at the end makes it clear that rapping about cars, jewellery, money isn't something he thought he'd be doing

Yeah triggered by the topic we're discussing, not our communications back and forth

Because I really explained much of the insecurities that plagued Tyler during his adolescence and we kinda bypassed that and talked about your feelings

I mean I’ll grant you that but song is pretty clearly being tongue in cheek. On the same album he has a bar about how much richer he was than people his age with the ‘they’re paying tuition I’m paying a mortgage’ and even Rusty which came two years before has multiple bars where he’s flexing with the daily trips the bank & hated homes too till I started copping me some bars

I'm a fan so I already know all the justifications people come up with about projection and self hatred because he was closeted and grew up feeling abandoned by his father

I just don't agree that it means every single thing he expressed during that time is a result of this and he was joking/trolling whenever you don't want to believe it might be his actual opinions. You're talking about African roots and drama kid over Hypebeast Forum posts hating on Kanye Occam's razor and all that