notbrock

2y

Anthony Fantano and his boys really tricked y’all lol

MrMudManMood

2y

Man heard you 😳😳

Day One Isher

2y

I dont know why most the people in here are disagreeing with him when yall say similar s*** in every other thread

TheFader

2y

True, but even when old heads used to say that, there was always a young crop of upcoming, very talented rappers that were making a name for themselves.

Name 10 rappers who debuted post-2020 who are both talented and you can see being around in 5-10 years

Campari

2y

Tyler thinks because he knows what a chord progression is and tossed a group of violinists in a room he can start looking down on the genre that made him. He has a history of this weird elitist mentality - by far the most obnoxious musician.

BlueDream

2y

There’s a reason why the Kendrick and Drake beef was such a big deal.
Those are 2 rappers who really do this rap s***, and they became rap titans . And they are a last of a dying breed

There is no one in this new generation who could have good rap beef, and it’s because they don’t give af about actually being a great rapper

Name me 3 new generation rappers in the mainstream who could genuinely hold their own in a rap battle

Gelik

2y

musician
/myo͞oˈziSH(ə)n/

a person who plays a musical instrument, especially as a profession, or is musically talented.

rappers make "music" but they are not musicians

radiant child

2y

Honestly JPEGMAFIA, he’s way more exciting and fresh imo

notbrock

2y

He really is

I’m just so confused, People talk about him like he’s so deep or something. Dude ain’t saying s*** on these songs lmao

Notmyfirst

2y

You’re right but to these guys think taking a Conductor beat and a gravediggaz beat n slapping your name on it is real producing

william cubit

2y

yes.

frank sinatra didn't write most of his songs, and didn't score them, and didn't conduct the orchestra or whatever. in his own words, he was interpreting music that he loved.

even the simple act of recording lines someone else wrote over music someone else composed is still an artistic act at its core. I think it still counts as musicianship for sure.

william cubit

2y

why would tyler of all people say this. acting like people didn't perceive odd future as "meme music".

if u make music ur a musician! if u make music that many other people like to listen to, u deserve some respect for it! does not matter if ur deathly serious or if ur joking around the whole time.

just another instance of tyler being pretentious and exposing his lack of appreciation for hip-hop

Otos

2y

Funny how Westside Gunn is often saying he "doesn't care about rapping or music" but he put out a bunch of raw, minimalistic, authentic tapes that were so good they inspired Tyler to make an overproduced disneyland version of them with bells and whistles and music videos in the style of a film director who makes films in the style of other directors..

william cubit

2y

no i genuinely think trying to draw a line between "real" music and street rappers is rooted in white supremacy. even if rappers front like they don't care abt music, if they have found enough success to be known by you, they care. its up to them to claim or discard labels like "musician" or "rapper" bc it's part of the image building. part of being a cultural figure is putting on an image, and even the denial of such labels is an artistic statement in itself.

like if some 70s/80s rock guys went into interviews talking about how they're really just all about partying and being crazy, and they're not even really musicians, everyone would chalk it up to just artists talking abt themselves in weird ways. or in other words, artists being artists. the reaction would be like "that's so metal!" or some s***. but no self-respecting critic would then use that to say they shouldn't be counted as musicians, right?

but when a black artist does something like that, it's taken purely at face value and they're s***-talked and ridiculed, at least by weird pretentious guys like Tyler.

DaParkDog

2y

Odd future was 13 years ago lol can musicians grow and mature as artists nowadays? Or are we judging them on past projects and their past perceived outlook

Dipset Forever

2y

It’s not that artists can’t mature, it’s that they should acknowledge ‘hey I was like that’ as opposed to pretending it never happened lol