Man exactly
And dont get me wrong I dont question Earl as a person at all, I know hes a great man. One of the realest rappers ever
But this nigga basically was like yea that OF s*** was crazy them niggas tripping like bro U was there too saying the F word rapping about rape and only dating white girls we saw u nigga
But he wasnt selling blackface merch or doing videos in blackface or being the ringleader/figurehead of it all.
Also he himself is technically a casualty of all that crazy s*** by the fact his mom singlehandedly grounded him from rap for like 2-3 years yo lmao.
Heavy is the head that chose to wear the crown.
hahahaha they on that nigga ASS
Man this is true but not 100% true
Like yes niggas be weird and it be they own fault but niggas get criticized for their interest too
Im telling u first hand my parents s*** on Q Tip all the time for being weird and not making music niggas wanna hear bc I was always a Q Tip stan growing up lol
telling u first hand my parents s*** on Q Tip all the time for being weird and not making music niggas wanna hear
And your parents are outliers considering tribe is one of the best selling rap groups ever
Niggas gonna hate niggas for everything.
Niggas hate niggas that are cool too lmao.
What I’m saying is the overall outsider complex a LOT of times be self imposed fam
He’s letting this get to him when he shouldn’t
This how it is for any artist with a big fan base. He’s just one of the few big artists that actually talks about his influences and tries to put people onto them
Yep he actually had a falling out with Syd and Matt over this. He also used to sell snapbacks with the n-word on it that white kids actually wore.
Is that why Syd drifted apart?
Was wondering when this was gonna be a thread on here lol. But yea he gotta acknowledge directly that he practically cultivated a fanbase that behaves like that
1. Earl even in of was always a tad different from them even tho yes he had his share of problematic songs
2. He was honestly the first to show a pivot/accountability just by Chum admitting he missed his dad after talking about how much he hated him on Earl
3. He has been transparent about growing up especially in this LLL press run/interviews (and also on songs like CRISCO he explicitly states he’s “sorry for the pain i caused. God knows my heart and knows I’m working on it”)
1.How was Earl different pre Samoa?
2.I definitely do think it helps that Earl started his transition earlier and his was more direct, but I don’t think that clears him of taking accountability. Tyler started to shift in 2013 too, I actually think syd and matt (goats) getting on his ass about the blackface s*** was the start of Tyler’s change which was around the same time as Chum came out. I think thats why tyler holds syd and matt so dear today
3.Tyler has too, he has interviews and quotes where he’s addressed it similarly.
Thats the thing, I feel like some of the stuff you’re asking for has already happened. I personally don’t think it’s enough but I also don’t think we’re gonna get any further without expanding the conversation past what its already been for years
Its clear Tyler feels bad lmao
I think he really just needs to say sorry, but I feel like he feels like it’d be undermining all his work but I don’t think so. Tyler did a lot of great things from 2008-2013 but he also made mistakes during that time and I hope one day he fully owns it so we can fully celebrate his change rather than only focusing on change bc it comes off differently without the acknowledgement
There's also the issue of some of his humour at the expense of black people looks worse given the mostly non black fanbase
Sort of like Chappelle's thoughts that led to him leaving his show
Niggas making fun of Niggas in front of other niggas is just jokes
But doing it mostly in front of a 'white' fanbase will lead to those fans having even more negative thoughts surrounding blackness
Young Nigga Come Thru Lookin Clean
Is that why Syd drifted apart?
From her tweet, it seemed to have been the last straw at the time. This was also pre-cherry bomb where it seemed like Tyler's and OF hype was dying down.
Niggas gonna hate niggas for everything.
Niggas hate niggas that are cool too lmao.
What I’m saying is the overall outsider complex a LOT of times be self imposed fam
Okay so by this you admit that its not black & white lol
Is that why Syd drifted apart?
Syd drifted apart before this because she went on tour with them in 2011 and said the boys didnt take enough time to care for her or ask how she was doing
Basically didnt like being the only woman amongst a bunch of wild guys
There's also the issue of some of his humour at the expense of black people looks worse given the mostly non black fanbase
Sort of like Chappelle's thoughts that led to him leaving his show
Niggas making fun of Niggas in front of other niggas is just jokes
But doing it mostly in front of a 'white' fanbase will lead to those fans having even more negative thoughts surrounding blackness
Young Nigga Come Thru Lookin Clean
100%
It emboldened white people
Our president was black, we were more united and the future looked bright. Times were different
Our president was black, we were more united and the future looked bright. Times were different
I definitely think a lot of niggas was drinking the racism is ending kool aid in the early 2010s lmaoo
1.How was Earl different pre Samoa?
2.I definitely do think it helps that Earl started his transition earlier and his was more direct, but I don’t think that clears him of taking accountability. Tyler started to shift in 2013 too, I actually think syd and matt (goats) getting on his ass about the blackface s*** was the start of Tyler’s change which was around the same time as Chum came out. I think thats why tyler holds syd and matt so dear today
3.Tyler has too, he has interviews and quotes where he’s addressed it similarly.
Thats the thing, I feel like some of the stuff you’re asking for has already happened. I personally don’t think it’s enough but I also don’t think we’re gonna get any further without expanding the conversation past what its already been for years
"boy you look like an African poet" (clearly referencing his dad) on the intro,
the way he rapped he was instantly the one out of OF that was taken the most seriously as a "lyricist"
or in layman terms, bro was RAPPING rapping
2. And that's why I acknowledge he has changed, the difference between perception of him and Earl is earl wasnt the ringleader/figurehead of all that OF represented (which unfortunately, along with good music, it represented a lot of anti-black gimmicky s***).
3. I will concede that most likely, it's unfortunately the legacy he'll leave behind. It's unfortunate but it brings a good point that blowing up as a child like....95% of the time aint worth it cause the fans grow up with you so you're kind of always frozen in time.
telling u first hand my parents s*** on Q Tip all the time for being weird and not making music niggas wanna hear
And your parents are outliers considering tribe is one of the best selling rap groups ever
Q-Tip has said it himself, he made a calculated play after the first album to make his and the group more appealing to the larger black population
They changed up their fashion style, started wearing Polo etc
He knew what criticism they were getting as them niggas wearing African clothes
OutKast acknowledged this issue too, you heard them skits on Aquemini with them niggas coming to buy the album & say they weren't messing with OutKast no more vwyase they were too weird
It's a real thing, mitch's experience of what he heard from his parents is definitely something that was widespread and occurring all over the place
Okay so by this you admit that its not black & white lol
I'll admit to that yeah.
Syd drifted apart before this because she went on tour with them in 2011 and said the boys didnt take enough time to care for her or ask how she was doing
Basically didnt like being the only woman amongst a bunch of wild guys
That’s fair and I empathise
This allegedly came after some replies under his d’angelo picture on twitter was…well typical edgelord s***.
Tyler still has the Edgelord fans? I don't follow him like that so I'm out of the loop