Disagree. And a lot of people do not have the know like you or I. We are a minority among younger people.
And thinking this is just about white people is ignorance, to me. This isnt a message for white people, it's a message for black people.
There is nothing wrong with reclaiming. As long as you aren't losing your dignity for it.
You can't even create something new without having a foundation of the old. Which is also why reclaiming, educating and making "cool" these things are important.
At the end of the day, great music is great music. I just think the idea of reclaiming something is just corny, I get it, but it's corny. If a group of people can come together and make a great band/original music, regardless of race/color, that's simply a great group making great music. If you're idea is a to "reclaim" a genre, while ignoring the minority you represent to appeal to the known majority of people who like said genre first and foremost, it's just corny in my opinion.
There are no new ways spins on country, rock or much of anything else. You either make great country music or not. The history is there, there's nothing to reclaim.
At the end of the day, great music is great music. I just think the idea of reclaiming something is just corny, I get it, but it's corny. If a group of people can come together and make a great band/original music, regardless of race/color, that's simply a great group making great music. If you're idea is a to "reclaim" a genre, while ignoring the minority you represent to appeal to the known majority of people who like said genre first and foremost, it's just corny in my opinion.
There are no new ways spins on country, rock or much of anything else. You either make great country music or not. The history is there, there's nothing to reclaim.
"reclaim" is a corny implication in the first place, art is not meant to be commodified or owned its for everyone to express and experience
There are always new ways to spin everything...
These people will say these things and won’t be able to expound on it. The statement as it is, is anti-black imho.
The cowboy aesthetic is her FBA proclamation
Im surprised she ain’t leaned into the indegenous American s*** a lot niggas been in lately
Ain’t no money in that
beyonce sucks
solange way better
my girl thinks this but my thing is beyonce can do what solange does musically. solange can’t do what beyonce does
it is
america is funding a genocide in the middle east right now
Then you got that Trump bullshit ass bill being passed. Like I really ain't tryna see none of this red, white, and blue Americana bullshit.
Add in the buffalo soldier thing she was on earlier (and I get that sure it was a means to educate) it's all looking very lame and out of touch with what's going on rn
At the end of the day, great music is great music. I just think the idea of reclaiming something is just corny, I get it, but it's corny. If a group of people can come together and make a great band/original music, regardless of race/color, that's simply a great group making great music. If you're idea is a to "reclaim" a genre, while ignoring the minority you represent to appeal to the known majority of people who like said genre first and foremost, it's just corny in my opinion.
There are no new ways spins on country, rock or much of anything else. You either make great country music or not. The history is there, there's nothing to reclaim.
"You either make great music or not" tell that to the underground and the lesser propped up genres. Or the genres seen as less acceptable.
This would sound good if the world was perfect, but that is literally not the way it works.
Country has been turned into a very white genre from the top down and a lot of black people see it as such too.
Labels have literally eroded black people music into a box of only Rap - and if you sing, no matter what style, you are RnB. Black people are literally pushed from doing other genres in labels, the algorithm and the culture attitude. Black people don't get budgets or eyes in most cases if they are not of the two main boxes. It's literally built against us, while others have more options. From mainstream to the underground.
Most people do not know the history anymore in the black community.
And country is/was seen uncool until recently with a lot of black people until Beyonce and Shaboozy, and still get some stereotype backlash.
The reclaiming is not trying to snatch it from white people or white audience lol, the "reclaiming" is showing that black people can be apart of this and other genres that they used to be more apart of and make still make it work n acceptable in the modern day. That's it
If our culture only thinks one or two forms of music is the only thing we can do in music or at least the only acceptable "cool" thing, then how will anything ever change or evolve as time goes on?
Or even the bigger message, if our culture "only thinks" we are slaves and victims without knowing of all the things we actually built in the biggest country and all the fight back we've done, then now do you think anyone will feel confident or have hope of doing something of importance in the future?
A literal govt psyop on black people was covering, erasing and belittling black Americans impact and history in the USA and their homeland on purpose to keep us ignorant and feeling hopeless, when they moved us into purpose built ghettos and projects. And it was unfortunately successful on many. There is nothing wrong with trying to reverse that literal erasure that was put on us. There is nothing wrong with trying to peek out the box they closed on us. From entertainment, to politics to daily living.
I don't know how trying to show your own people that you were vital in a genre you're not that apart of anymore is corny, so I disagree.
Again, it's not about showing white people, it's about showing your own black people. Showing that you have been apart of even more, and you can still be apart of even more out there. While still being successful, impactful and/or cool doing it.
Y'all ever peep the movie Coonskin? All the Americana stuff Beyonce been on with this country era gets eerily close to the character Miss America
my girl thinks this but my thing is beyonce can do what solange does musically. solange can’t do what beyonce does
Other way around
Then you got that Trump bullshit ass bill being passed. Like I really ain't tryna see none of this red, white, and blue Americana bullshit.
Add in the buffalo soldier thing she was on earlier (and I get that sure it was a means to educate) it's all looking very lame and out of touch with what's going on rn
We’ve seen enough transgressive uses of the American flag that we don’t have to assume its symbolic nature is so one-faced, if people fail to see that it's a failure of media literacy, not the artist’s responsibility
The real problem isn’t the flag, it’s the way people read it
Same thing every 4th of July, Born in the USA is blasted by people who don’t understand what the song's about, the problem is not the flag the problem is media literacy
In saying that, Beyonce could be doing more social commentary along with the music, but using the flag itself isn't a problem
That Native American shirt she wore / is selling js lowkey sus. Surprised she’s not getting more backlash for that
Black people feeling the need to "reclaim" something is just a form of bowing to white supremacy. There's still a lot of work to be done in propping up black culture , there's nothing to reclaim that isn't already in the past.
I don’t necessarily disagree with you, but I think you’re kind of ignoring a lot of racial context here. Just to put something tangible to racism in this country, black people weren’t allowed to vote until 1965. That was 60 years ago. For most people on this forum, we have grandparents who spent most of their childhood years growing up in a country where black people couldn’t vote. It’s not some far off ancient history where this country was as tangibly racist. Even if you pretend racism died off then and there without any lingering (which would be absurd), you can’t possibly expect that black people wouldn’t hold onto that for a few generations. You can’t just expect them to say “color doesn’t matter, music is music”
Pretty sure part of it is "reclaiming" America and propping up the black side to American history and entertainment - it's kinda the whole concept of Cowboy Carter of celebrating blackness in spaces blackness isn't visible as much anymore in modern times
Nothing wrong with that, to me, and she (n "we") is still an American at the end of the day no matter what
This.
I don’t see understand how this has been lost on people so quickly. It seems like everyone understood what she was doing when the album first dropped. She’s wearing a blonde wig and singing Jolene. Seems pretty obvious that she’s saying, “These symbols wouldn’t exist without us. They belong to us.”
Why she looking like Sabrina Carpenter here though
https://twitter.com/ironisaonion/status/1917687187304337484Nah that b**** looks more like M3GAN
Where the rock and roll era at?
Next ain’t it ? If she is completing this trilogy I believe that’s next
Beyonce doing rock music just smells of corny. We'll see though
That rock song in lemonade with Jack White was actually good