Jan 26We are Jung a psyop joint
Jan 26·2 replies
goretexniggas realizing we are young is a ye song LMAOOOOO bro imagine hov on it it woulda worked so perfectly
it’s giving Empire State Of Mind 2
Jan 26·1 reply
OPJan 26·2 replies
ElricWhite folks love martial arts films and funk
I grew up on a farm in the bush but within a year of moving to the burbs when I was like 12 and discovering Wu and Outkast on mtv I was collecting Source magazine and rocking counterfeit FUBU and Lugz
I wasn't relating to the hardcore gangster rap but Wu Tangs coded ninja poetry and martial art movie samples was fascinating to me. Outkast pushing the boundaries of rap, stretching out into funk jams with strong social conscious was like heroin.
Bro gentrification does not explicitly entail white people listening to rap. For example, despite how corny he is, I would not say Eminem gentrified rap.
It's erasing the urban, working class, and indeed black roots of the genre, or at least discrediting/belittling them. Kanye inextricably played a role in this after a certain point in his career. I'd say it definitively began in 2011, but had been trending that way since like 2007.
- Jan 26·1 replyUlyanov_
Would go as far back as Dre actually.
Yup. If y'all don't think whites weren't buying million of g-funk albums and Puffy "productions" well I'm here to tell you they were, way before Kanye showed up.
Flaphead 🎧Jan 26!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCjkgDghK-M
insertcoolnamehereHOLY S***. I can hear 2010-2011 Rhymefest-Ye and Jay rip that 0:50 section a new a******
Jeff Bhasker lowkey came in at the right place and time to cross pollinate hip-hop and indie pop and profit off of it, always been fascinated by this particular bit of MBDTF history. Those drums were such an “edgy white auteur” whistle at the time
- Jan 26·edited·2 repliesNothingIs
it’s giving Empire State Of Mind 2
EDIT: nvrmind insertcoolnamehere tripping
@Beach_kneega 
Jan 26·1 reply
v12i mean kanye did basically bring hipster/indie kids who were listening to modest mouse arcade fire etc into rap along with clipse, cudi, travis etc. kanye probably the biggest culprit for this due to him working with jon brion (fiona apple’s producer/critical darling) or sampling daft punk (music nerds messiahs). he did a lot that meant rap became more gentrified but that was always going to be the result. rap before him was shaping up to be this when def jam etc pushed rap into a money making machine
Can't agree with Clipse but everyone else is a culprit.
I never forgot that KTT1 was full of those kinds of kids either.
- Jan 26!https://youtu.be/XASNM1XEQPs?si=QXZAlcmXppo1S1P6eversince
Crine what the hell
Jan 26insertcoolnamehereDrake and Tyler (and Odd Future by extension) are the children of Ye (as much as Drake/drake fans don't wanna admit it)
I'll give you Tyler.
Drake is tricky though.
He has some musical influence from Kanye but their lanes were/are different.
Drake has both a Young Money influence and an R&B type influence Kanye didn't really delve into outside of 808's.
As such, Drake's fandom was quite different from Ye's.
- OPJan 26Elric
Yup. If y'all don't think whites weren't buying million of g-funk albums and Puffy "productions" well I'm here to tell you they were, way before Kanye showed up.
Please read my latest reply to you man, it's not about white people listening to rap. It's good that white people can enjoy rap, in its own way hopeful up to a certain point, at least regarding cultural diversity.
It's more of a class thing and historical thing. White people who don't use hip hop to belittle black art and/or make fun of poor people (especially poor black people) are cool.
Jan 26·3 replies50 had a rugged image and was roided up but he sang all of his hooks and his peers clowned him for it. That was the avatar of street music at that time. When Jadakiss makes fun of him for signing he's basically calling him gay. People called Kanye soft and gay especially during the Heartless run. Poptimism was as much about the crisis of masculinity as it was about the music. And the genre got less reactionary when the money went the other way. How it can be gentrified when Beastie Boys and Vanilla Ice existed idk
- Jan 26·2 replies
Im so glad neither ye nor Hov hopped on that s***ty ass We Are Young beat itt
- Jan 26CRACKASTEPPAVEGAN
Im so glad neither ye nor Hov hopped on that s***ty ass We Are Young beat itt
oh you gonna ignore my tag huh
- Jan 26!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KeoczdE0QKwinsertcoolnamehere· edited
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@Beach_kneega lol @ the mashup
- goretex 💁🏽♂️Jan 26NothingIs
it’s giving Empire State Of Mind 2
niggas forgot about them anthems LMAO
- Jan 26·1 reply!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KeoczdE0QKwinsertcoolnamehere
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@Beach_kneega Wait
- OPJan 26·1 replyBenny Boy
50 had a rugged image and was roided up but he sang all of his hooks and his peers clowned him for it. That was the avatar of street music at that time. When Jadakiss makes fun of him for signing he's basically calling him gay. People called Kanye soft and gay especially during the Heartless run. Poptimism was as much about the crisis of masculinity as it was about the music. And the genre got less reactionary when the money went the other way. How it can be gentrified when Beastie Boys and Vanilla Ice existed idk
Not about being "rugged" and/or singing. Biz Markie was doing sing-song raps in '89 and everyone loves them.
It's about respecting the fact that rap originated from urban, poor, African American communities, and its production format is inextricably, materially linked to those environmental factors.
- Jan 26·1 replyCRACKASTEPPAVEGAN
Wait
it's a mashup lol.
Jan 26·3 repliesCRACKASTEPPAVEGANIm so glad neither ye nor Hov hopped on that s***ty ass We Are Young beat itt
i feel ashamed to admit that was my introduction to janelle monae
- Jan 26·1 replyUlyanov_
Bro gentrification does not explicitly entail white people listening to rap. For example, despite how corny he is, I would not say Eminem gentrified rap.
It's erasing the urban, working class, and indeed black roots of the genre, or at least discrediting/belittling them. Kanye inextricably played a role in this after a certain point in his career. I'd say it definitively began in 2011, but had been trending that way since like 2007.
Idk man I been a rap fan since the 90s and I didn't notice whites trying to erase/discredit the genres black roots in 2011 any more than they did when Puffy was sampling The fking Police
- Jan 26·1 replyUlyanov_
Not about being "rugged" and/or singing. Biz Markie was doing sing-song raps in '89 and everyone loves them.
It's about respecting the fact that rap originated from urban, poor, African American communities, and its production format is inextricably, materially linked to those environmental factors.
Biz Markie is not presented as the avatar of street rap the way 50 is in the narrative against Kanye
- Jan 26insertcoolnamehere
it's a mashup lol.
Maan...
- Jan 26·1 replyBenny Boy
50 had a rugged image and was roided up but he sang all of his hooks and his peers clowned him for it. That was the avatar of street music at that time. When Jadakiss makes fun of him for signing he's basically calling him gay. People called Kanye soft and gay especially during the Heartless run. Poptimism was as much about the crisis of masculinity as it was about the music. And the genre got less reactionary when the money went the other way. How it can be gentrified when Beastie Boys and Vanilla Ice existed idk
because vanilla ice was seen as an object of ridicule. Beastie Boys while white were still like "ok you got your s*** over there" type beat.
Jan 26rustcohlestan2i feel ashamed to admit that was my introduction to janelle monae
Why ? I think that was a lot of people’s introduction to her
