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  • Nov 11, 2025

    I know I dont have a choice but to live in a world filled with AI creations. The best I can do as a consumer and creator is actively avoid anything or anyone that seems to be using it. Since I've been shopping for Christmas decorations (at like 3 stores), I have seen so much ugly ass AI bullshit completely void of soul. It's hard to not see it as a net L for humanity as a whole

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    And i the human is writing the prompt in Ai your point?

    Your goal is not the prompt itself. It's the output of the genAI that you'll take ownership and credit for. You aren't going around showing off that string of text now are you? It's the "finished" images, sound or video that is generated later—the part you had no hand in creating, only describing.

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    Your goal is not the prompt itself. It's the output of the genAI that you'll take ownership and credit for. You aren't going around showing off that string of text now are you? It's the "finished" images, sound or video that is generated later—the part you had no hand in creating, only describing.

    "that part you had no hand in creating, only describing."

    that's debatable. if I'm specifically describing what i want. i have a hand in creation.

    when cameras came out , people reacted the same way because it was painters and sketchers jobs to capture moments.

    Do we disregard photographers when all they do is press a button?

    yes i know there's more to pressing a button, as there is more to telling Ai to "make a beautiful image" the more specific you are the better the creation. so it really comes down to human thought and ideas.

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    Pros:

    Productivity
    Research
    Coding

    Cons:

    P***
    Education
    Eliminating tons of jobs
    Accounts for 90% of US GDP in 2025
    The hype
    Scams galore

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    SuperSaiyan

    "that part you had no hand in creating, only describing."

    that's debatable. if I'm specifically describing what i want. i have a hand in creation.

    when cameras came out , people reacted the same way because it was painters and sketchers jobs to capture moments.

    Do we disregard photographers when all they do is press a button?

    yes i know there's more to pressing a button, as there is more to telling Ai to "make a beautiful image" the more specific you are the better the creation. so it really comes down to human thought and ideas.

    If I describe to an architect how I'd like my house to look, how many rooms it should have and the general flow, that doesn't then make me an architect. When I detail my preferences and palette to an interior designer, I'm still not able to call myself an interior designer. I could provide all kinds of examples and characteristics I would want in a piece of music I commission from a musician but that still wouldn't make me a multi-instrumentalist. If you want to be a writer, become one. Otherwise, you are a client with a job/commission, not the artist

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    If I describe to an architect how I'd like my house to look, how many rooms it should have and the general flow, that doesn't then make me an architect. When I detail my preferences and palette to an interior designer, I'm still not able to call myself an interior designer. I could provide all kinds of examples and characteristics I would want in a piece of music I commission from a musician but that still wouldn't make me a multi-instrumentalist. If you want to be a writer, become one. Otherwise, you are a client with a job/commission, not the artist

    correct . people who use Ai will simply be called prompt engineers.

    Why don't we discredit film directors and creative directors, when they do the same thing lol

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    people have been giving yall solid arguments throughout this thread. You niggas just dismiss them "because they use phones" or technology in general.

    Yet it's crickets when we bring up the real world impact it has on the resources we need to survive and the climate.

  • Nov 11, 2025

    A lot of common wealth will get lost with AI.
    A lot of people how could make a living of a craft and have a meaningful life, will lose that, and a few people will get very rich.

    We as humans has made that mistake before, like when we became industrial

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    Yet it's crickets when we bring up the real world impact it has on the resources we need to survive and the climate.

    Yes cause that’s the only valid argument. But a lot of these takes , they not even caring about the environment aspect and that’s why there dismissed

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    SuperSaiyan

    Yes cause that’s the only valid argument. But a lot of these takes , they not even caring about the environment aspect and that’s why there dismissed

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    Yes cause that’s the only valid argument. But a lot of these takes , they not even caring about the environment aspect and that’s why there dismissed

    Why do you continue to argue if we already have a VERY valid reason to not want AI in society at a large scale. There's probably countless projects that have been halted for the sake of the environment. There isn't some magic fix for the effects(increased bills,pollution,resource scarcity) that AI has on the environment thats gonna come in the next few years man. It's literally nowhere near sustainable for commercial use

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    aauraa

    Why do you continue to argue if we already have a VERY valid reason to not want AI in society at a large scale. There's probably countless projects that have been halted for the sake of the environment. There isn't some magic fix for the effects(increased bills,pollution,resource scarcity) that AI has on the environment thats gonna come in the next few years man. It's literally nowhere near sustainable for commercial use

    Im done bro, thanks for takin 16 mins to come up with something i agreed on. i love debating i can hop on ya ass next

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    SuperSaiyan

    Im done bro, thanks for takin 16 mins to come up with something i agreed on. i love debating i can hop on ya ass next

    bro f*** this

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    aauraa

    bro f*** this

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    Jesus wouldn't rock with AI, so I ain't rocking with it.

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    Drogon

    Jesus wouldn't rock with AI, so I ain't rocking with it.

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    1. Ai doesnt steal

    and 2. Do humans not take concepts from each other? what does inspiration mean?

    only argument you have is the environmental one

    AI doesnt steal...?
    Also AI has been found to directly trace artwork which is frowned upon in many art communities

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    9to5mac.com/2024/11/21/openai-accidentally-erased-chatgpt-training-findings-as-lawyers-seek-copyright-violations

    apnews.com/article/nyt-openai-copyright-lawsuit-chatgpt-cc19ef2cf3f23343738e892b60d6d7a6

    im laughing but this really isnt something to laugh about this s*** is serious like they literally have summits with world leaders on this

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    https://9to5mac.com/2024/11/21/openai-accidentally-erased-chatgpt-training-findings-as-lawyers-seek-copyright-violations/

    https://apnews.com/article/nyt-openai-copyright-lawsuit-chatgpt-cc19ef2cf3f23343738e892b60d6d7a6

    im laughing but this really isnt something to laugh about this s*** is serious like they literally have summits with world leaders on this

    nice your source is something with no trial yet with ai claiming Fair Use defense. Give me something good bro

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    SuperSaiyan

    nice your source is something with no trial yet with ai claiming Fair Use defense. Give me something good bro

    why and how could OpenAI delete data that would incriminate them?

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    aauraa

    why and how could OpenAI delete data that would incriminate them?

    True that is fishy. The question of whether AI steals depends on how the courts rule on the fair use defense.

    so my statement saying Ai doesn't steal is neither right or wrong. it depends on this

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    SuperSaiyan

    correct . people who use Ai will simply be called prompt engineers.

    Why don't we discredit film directors and creative directors, when they do the same thing lol

    generally, film and creative directors rise to that position off of their prior artistic works and years in their respective industries, often in positions assisting a director. As a graphic designer with friends that are art/creative directors, I can tell you that finding commission work or salaried employment comes down to the professionalism and cohesion of your portfolio. Proving that you can not only adhere to someone else's direction but also carry on an unified theme throughout your own projects shows that you have your own vision as a creative. Couple that with managerial qualities gained from leading projects as a senior or even junior designer, ascending to the position of creative lead/director could very well be in one's future. You claiming to be a "prompt engineer" doesn't compare to that real experience.

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    SuperSaiyan

    True that is fishy. The question of whether AI steals depends on how the courts rule on the fair use defense.

    so my statement saying Ai doesn't steal is neither right or wrong. it depends on this

    wired.com/story/new-documents-unredacted-meta-copyright-ai-lawsuit

    Trillion dollar for profit company with a huge stake in AI that cant pay authors and uses LibGen for datasets.. I'm all for LibGen but a trillion dollar company cant move like this

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    generally, film and creative directors rise to that position off of their prior artistic works and years in their respective industries, often in positions assisting a director. As a graphic designer with friends that are art/creative directors, I can tell you that finding commission work or salaried employment comes down to the professionalism and cohesion of your portfolio. Proving that you can not only adhere to someone else's direction but also carry on an unified theme throughout your own projects shows that you have your own vision as a creative. Couple that with managerial qualities gained from leading projects as a senior or even junior designer, ascending to the position of creative lead/director could very well be in one's future. You claiming to be a "prompt engineer" doesn't compare to that real experience.

    okay? so only people who rose to their position are allowed to use AI? tell me what's your point dude. im not claiming to be an artist , or painter. nor am i claiming people who use AI are those either

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    aauraa

    https://www.wired.com/story/new-documents-unredacted-meta-copyright-ai-lawsuit/

    Trillion dollar for profit company with a huge stake in AI that cant pay authors and uses LibGen for datasets.. I'm all for LibGen but a trillion dollar company cant move like this

    Dude why you keep linking these sources that haven't been finalized.

    and even if they were using pirated books to train their AI models, is that actually stealing when the AI is going to produce something totally different?

    if someone taught me Spanish did i steal the Spanish langue for Latins?????

    Also , try not to edit after you post. When i look up i notice i have to respond to another failed attempt .