I don’t really feel like this new “ug” scene has any actual tenets of the word “underground” though. It’s not outside of the mainstream, it’s not anti establishment. Even if it once was, those things were never the main point of the scene, which is why I feel like it could have used a better term. Even “new wave” would have been better than underground because underground carries some social and potentially political implications imo
I agree!

New meaning of Underground Rapper
'A rapper that isn't big enough to get a mandated Lil Baby feature but could probably get a Teezo Touchdown feature'

New meaning of Underground Rapper
'A rapper that isn't big enough to get a mandated Lil Baby feature but could probably get a Teezo Touchdown feature'
not even cuz a ken carson or nettspend could easily get a lil baby feature if they wanted
it's literally just wearing the right clothes = "underground" in a lot of fans eyes
spend less time trying to define music with labels and just enjoy it
Nah
This new post 2020 “underground” is now replacing actual underground rap/the evolution of it
Why is it so hard for niggas to come up with new names for s*** instead of trying to swallow/replace old subgenres lol
Same thing for carti uzi yachty travis etc being the new de facto big 3 and it killing off drake kendrick kanye jay wayne tier actual mainstream rap artists under 25
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Nah
This new post 2020 “underground” is now replacing actual underground rap/the evolution of it
Why is it so hard for niggas to come up with new names for s*** instead of trying to swallow/replace old subgenres lol
Same thing for carti uzi yachty travis etc being the new de facto big 3 and it killing off drake kendrick kanye jay wayne tier actual mainstream rap artists under 25
The reason we call dudes like che or osamason underground is because that scene WAS niche but it became the dominant sound
Changing the name would be confusing but im not against that idea
I agree with you on words evolving to mean how people use them, but I don't interact with anybody irl that listens to Ken Carson and them so underground to me and my circle still means MIKE and them
Calling niggas with buzzing songs and co-signs underground who been in the game 4-5+ years (Ken Carson) is like game devs who keep calling their product “in alpha” for 5+ years to avoid why so many features are lacking
Missing the point
Why is he not
Saw him tear down an arena first hand. He’s mainstream and that’s alright
Saw him tear down an arena first hand. He’s mainstream and that’s alright
What I’m saying is underground has come to define a sound and genre more than a relationship to industry
What I’m saying is underground has come to define a sound and genre more than a relationship to industry
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What I’m saying is underground has come to define a sound and genre more than a relationship to industry
Would you say there’s a notable difference between underground and rage? Is underground p much just rage and pluggnb atp?
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Yep
Just like 2000s “underground” wasnt always exactly underground, see: Atmopshere
Would you say there’s a notable difference between underground and rage? Is underground p much just rage and pluggnb atp?
I think the way most people use “underground” refers to the scene of rappers that then inhabit rage, pluggnb, and generally post-Carti/Lucki/Uzi sounds
Notice how “underground” generally doesn’t refer to up-and-comers outside of that strain of rappers (Cash Cobain, Veeze, etc) but will inhabit artists on the less-hiphop inclined side of Carti’s influence (Lucy Bedroque, Jane)
Why is he not
Has a billboard number 1 under his belt, sells out huge shows, does not exist outside of the mainstream
go enjoy the music instead of entering conversations you don’t want to participate in anyways lmao
Hate people who enter conversations with no intention of participating in them lol
What I’m saying is underground has come to define a sound and genre more than a relationship to industry
It’s just definitionally not what that word means, this isn’t a genre name it’s a word that has always been about status. It became associated with a sound that popped but not to a massive degree. Kendrick was underground once
It’s just definitionally not what that word means, this isn’t a genre name it’s a word that has always been about status. It became associated with a sound that popped but not to a massive degree. Kendrick was underground once
They make a new dictionary every year
It’s just definitionally not what that word means, this isn’t a genre name it’s a word that has always been about status. It became associated with a sound that popped but not to a massive degree. Kendrick was underground once
And that has changed