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  • Nov 23, 2020
    Roundstone

    People inherently want to be compensated for the labor they put in. You can't have an equal society when the road to being a doctor and the road to being a nurse is completely different and yet a doctor would be considered equal in status and wealth to a nurse.

    And I think you and I have different definitions of the word "selfish". Again collectives have always been there and still are there, but people work extremely hard in these collectives because they know that on top of their team benefitting, they will also benefit. Even if the team doesn't pull their weight but you do, you will be recognized for your effort. That wouldn't happen in a leftist society. If your team fails, everyone fails. And that is a very demoralizing reality. And if you alone manage to work your ass off and sacrifice your time in so many other things you could be doing to get your team off the ground, you wouldn't be recognized in any way. You would be considered an equal to your bum ass teammates.

    And that is why leftism could never work.

    Where have I insuated equal pay for every member of soviety, That's another one of those lazy criticisms of leftist ideology made being right wing think tanks, I simply mentioned the democratisation of the work place, nothing about equal pay regardaless of profession.
    I mean what is stopping people from benefitting from collectively owning and deciding what happens in their workspace? I mean working for a company there is seldom ever any incentive to work any harder than the person, because at the end of the day upper management is the one who gets praised for you or your team doing well not you as a worker. Do you know the names of any of Tesla's engineers, do you ever here the media or anyone else shouting they are geniuses, or is all praise directed at Tesla given to Elon Musk?

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    math fifty

    Soviet and Nazi soldiers shaking hands
    https://enrs.eu/en/news/882-17-september-1939-the-soviet-invasion-of-poland

    Here’s the prime minister of the UK literallly giving countries away to Hitler

  • 6isco 🦈
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    Synopsis impact on this forum>>>>>

  • Nov 23, 2020

    This is legitimately laughable

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    6isco

    Synopsis impact on this forum>>>>>

    He’s bigger than S

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    americana

    What does oil even have to do with the argument

    idk you're trying to say that russia was so great lmao so i gave you some more cool info

    but don't forget to gloss over the mass corruption and all the horrible problems russia had

    so even with all that it's truly amazing to see how the ussr failed!

    :)

  • Nov 23, 2020
    laudi

    He’s bigger than S

    Synopsis and S both start with S hmmmm

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    americana

    Here’s the prime minister of the UK literallly giving countries away to Hitler

    Whats the relevance to this conversation

  • Nov 23, 2020

    carti turned the album in ?

  • 6isco 🦈
    Nov 23, 2020
    laudi

    He’s bigger than S

    you just said the magic word, he might show up now

  • Nov 23, 2020

    A lot of "Stock Markets Don't Kill People, People Kill People" Rhetoric ITT lol

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    Except they didn't?

    Anti-communists always think they can get away with easily debunked lies about history

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    math fifty

    Whats the relevance to this conversation

    What is the relevance of german and soviet soldiers shaking hands

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    Bush impact

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    idk you're trying to say that russia was so great lmao so i gave you some more cool info

    but don't forget to gloss over the mass corruption and all the horrible problems russia had

    so even with all that it's truly amazing to see how the ussr failed!

    :)

    what does this have to do with you talking about oil

  • Nov 23, 2020
    math fifty

    I never said authoritarianism was exclusive to socialism or any of that

    The ussr deported a buncha Koreans and Ukranians and ion see them on this list

    Also by this logic was it okay for the US to inter Japanese niggas during WW2?

    Unless you're satisfied with the status quo, you will necessarily be authoritarian. Societies don't just suddenly have systemic change without some sort of authority steering them a certain way

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    americana

    what does this have to do with you talking about oil

    you're bragging about "food security" and "free healthcare" lol

  • Nov 23, 2020

    People love their corruption where they cant see it.

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    you're bragging about "food security" and "free healthcare" lol

    and what does that have to do with oil

    you still haven’t answered my question

  • Nov 23, 2020

    Counter-revolutionary capitalists are rarely concerned with their stated democratic principles when overthrowing a socialist state.

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