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  • May 16
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    shaleirose

    It's not a measure of quality, it's a measure of commercial appeal

    I think ICEMAN blows CLB out of the water, but I'm solely talking about the commercial-ness of the two albums in how they're constructed

    What 4 songs do you think have the biggest hit potential on here?

    In 3 years I predict
    Janice STFU 1b+
    National Treasures 600m+
    Plot Twist 500m+
    2 Hard 4 The Radio 500m+

    drake's audience historically does not f*** with features much

  • May 16
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    mangotflu

    In 3 years I predict
    Janice STFU 1b+
    National Treasures 600m+
    Plot Twist 500m+
    2 Hard 4 The Radio 500m+

    drake's audience historically does not f*** with features much

    The biggest songs on his past three solo albums (before this year) all have features

    Fair Trade
    Knife Talk
    Way 2 Sexy
    Girls Want Girls
    Jimmy Cooks
    Rich Baby Daddy
    First Person Shooter
    IDGAF

    Plus Laugh Now Cry Later, Rich Flex, Wants and Needs, and Chicago Freestyle

    I think his only solo hits in the 2020s are Toosie Slide and NOKIA

    His fanbase has definitely gravitated towards features in the 2020s

  • May 16
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  • May 16
  • shaleirose

    The biggest songs on his past three solo albums (before this year) all have features

    Fair Trade
    Knife Talk
    Way 2 Sexy
    Girls Want Girls
    Jimmy Cooks
    Rich Baby Daddy
    First Person Shooter
    IDGAF

    Plus Laugh Now Cry Later, Rich Flex, Wants and Needs, and Chicago Freestyle

    I think his only solo hits in the 2020s are Toosie Slide and NOKIA

    His fanbase has definitely gravitated towards features in the 2020s

    What’s Next too in that list but yea

  • Ngl it is funny that some people here thought the $$$ numbers were indicative of the Iceman numbers. Just obviously a silly premise lol

  • May 16
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    Drake being arguably bigger now post beef is hilarious tho

  • May 16

    A song like this being the one to pass MJ’s record would be poetic

  • May 16
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    Mondegreen

    Drake being arguably bigger now post beef is hilarious tho

    i think he was on the verge of fading out after FATD but the beef gave him more spite to run on.

  • Kr0niic ☘️
    May 16
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    serenade

    i think he was on the verge of fading out after FATD but the beef gave him more spite to run on.

    Kendrick saved that bums career!

  • serenade

    i think he was on the verge of fading out after FATD but the beef gave him more spite to run on.

    Yeah as "rap Drake" fan I disliked FATD and felt like he was running out of stuff to talk about on the rap tracks, songs like Amen and Calling for You felt like Late Stage Kanye phoning it in s*** to me

    Pushups/FM/100 gigs made me a much bigger fan and Iceman feels like return to form, quality of rap songs is like night and day

  • May 16
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    Mondegreen

    It’s interesting how public perception is that he does crossover/non-rap stuff for commercial reasons (makes sense intuitively - “going pop” is a thing rappers do lol) but the non rap stuff has way weaker reception. Especially slow r&b stuff

    People keep trying to push this narrative that Drake rap music doesnt sell. This just another nail in the coffin for that narrative.

  • May 16
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    Kr0niic

    Kendrick saved that bums career!

  • Kr0niic ☘️
    May 16
    quadra

    Starts dissing Kendrick and his numbers go up everyone wants to tune in to see the one at the top fail. If he wasn’t dissing we wouldn’t be listening

  • May 16
    mangotflu

    So Drake's also proven he could do 1m fw. He just needs like 250k in physicals and 40 songs. That would be very easy to do

    "only like 100 songs"

  • May 16
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    Mafia Boss

    People keep trying to push this narrative that Drake rap music doesnt sell. This just another nail in the coffin for that narrative.

    Huh?

    Drake's rap music does sell... but it's usually his pop rap stuff

    Over
    Headlines
    The Motto
    Started From the Bottom
    God's Plan
    Nice For What
    Toosie Slide
    Laugh Now Cry Later
    Way 2 Sexy
    etc. etc.

    These are all pop rap records

  • May 16
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    shaleirose

    Huh?

    Drake's rap music does sell... but it's usually his pop rap stuff

    Over
    Headlines
    The Motto
    Started From the Bottom
    God's Plan
    Nice For What
    Toosie Slide
    Laugh Now Cry Later
    Way 2 Sexy
    etc. etc.

    These are all pop rap records

    Isn't half of ICEMAN pop rap?

  • mangotflu

    I don't comprende ngl

    the only songs with mad streams on CLB are rap songs. all the deep cuts did trash, even songs like Race My Mind which to me is a ridiculously good song is "only" at 174m vs a very average rap song No Friends In the Industry with 286m

    even fountains with tems is "only" at 242m

    this'll demolish CLB's longterm performance i reckon

    i dont see it beating CLB tbh. beat switches and a lot of the songs dont have hit potential imo.

  • May 16
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    mov

    Isn't half of ICEMAN pop rap?

    I wouldn't categorize it as that, that's why I'm wondering how well it does longterm

    To me, the project it most reminds me of is IYRTITL, and that's one of his least popular projects overall

  • May 16
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    This is based off of first day numbers and very likely to change based off of holds

  • May 16
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    shaleirose

    The biggest songs on his past three solo albums (before this year) all have features

    Fair Trade
    Knife Talk
    Way 2 Sexy
    Girls Want Girls
    Jimmy Cooks
    Rich Baby Daddy
    First Person Shooter
    IDGAF

    Plus Laugh Now Cry Later, Rich Flex, Wants and Needs, and Chicago Freestyle

    I think his only solo hits in the 2020s are Toosie Slide and NOKIA

    His fanbase has definitely gravitated towards features in the 2020s

    i think thats the gp more than his fanbase

  • Mafia Boss

    i think thats the gp more than his fanbase

    Yes but the GP is what determines the hits

  • May 16
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    shaleirose

    I wouldn't categorize it as that, that's why I'm wondering how well it does longterm

    To me, the project it most reminds me of is IYRTITL, and that's one of his least popular projects overall

    Janice STFU
    Dust
    Shabang
    Make Them Pay is kinda melodic
    Burning Bridges
    2 Hard 4 The Radio
    Make Them Remember also melodic
    Little Birdie
    Don't Worry

    I don't know man

  • May 16
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    Elemental

    This is based off of first day numbers and very likely to change based off of holds

    I think people are overpredicting Make Them Cry based on the first day, I don't see that song holding that strong over the week, it's too lyrical

  • May 16
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    shaleirose

    I think people are overpredicting Make Them Cry based on the first day, I don't see that song holding that strong over the week, it's too lyrical

    I agree. Would be shocked if it’s stable enough for #1