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  • Good

    Much better than iceman

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    Spent 2 years promoting that slop just to lose to Olivia Rodrigo

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    all sales are fraudulent except Drake

  • why do you have amazon as a partner and just not use them lol

  • Title really got them upset good job @op

  • Olivia has solidified herself now as the Gen Z Avril lavigne. I actually like this new project

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    Dr Lee PhD

    Spent 2 years promoting that slop just to lose to Olivia Rodrigo

    Meanwhile Kendrick sells like 200k less no matter what he does

    How did he “lose” yall desperate to give Drake an L. Drake and Olivia Rodrigo aren’t in competition

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    plightone

    This is the guy that compares himself to Michael Jackson right?

    I can’t believe this thread is literally comments like this yall are deranged

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    Olivia Rodrigo has a massive physical media presence, highlighted by the debut of her third studio album, You Seem Pretty Sad for a Girl So in Love. Driven by special-edition pressings—like the Target-exclusive pink and white vinyls and a standard CD— physicals made up a staggering 60% of the album's massive 470K opening week.

  • BRAVE

    Hundreds of thousands of people buying your album in an era where they don’t want to, don’t have to, and barely like music will always be a W. There is no cope to mitigate that fact

  • 2words

    Olivia Rodrigo has a massive physical media presence, highlighted by the debut of her third studio album, You Seem Pretty Sad for a Girl So in Love. Driven by special-edition pressings—like the Target-exclusive pink and white vinyls and a standard CD— physicals made up a staggering 60% of the album's massive 470K opening week.

    You needed to ask ChatGPT to get this information?

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    2words

    Meanwhile Kendrick sells like 200k less no matter what he does

    How did he “lose” yall desperate to give Drake an L. Drake and Olivia Rodrigo aren’t in competition

    GNX would've very easily outsold ICEMAN first week if it had physicals day one

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    BRAVE

    Hundreds of thousands of people buying your album in an era where they don’t want to, don’t have to, and barely like music will always be a W. There is no cope to mitigate that fact

    Sure, it’s a W. But if we’re comparing a release with physicals and special editions to a release without that, we have to take that into account.

    For the releases to be this close in numbers despite that difference says a lot. 60% of Olivia’s number being physicals means she did less than half the streams Drake did. The real story is nuanced.

    Iceman did zero physicals and he still effectively put up the same number as a prime pop star pulling out all the stops. Are we saying this is an L to get that many listeners purely off the music? What we doing here? There’s no way to spin that either

  • 2words

    Sure, it’s a W. But if we’re comparing a release with physicals and special editions to a release without that, we have to take that into account.

    For the releases to be this close in numbers despite that difference says a lot. 60% of Olivia’s number being physicals means she did less than half the streams Drake did. The real story is nuanced.

    Iceman did zero physicals and he still effectively put up the same number as a prime pop star pulling out all the stops. Are we saying this is an L to get that many listeners purely off the music? What we doing here? There’s no way to spin that either

    Pop music never streams super high first week unless your name is Taylor Swift. I've been tryna tell y'all this for years

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    shaleirose

    GNX would've very easily outsold ICEMAN first week if it had physicals day one

    But Iceman didn’t have physicals either… you’re saying you have to give Kendrick an advantage to win? Why can’t you compare it as is, it’s definitely a better comparison then O Rod, a bundle artist

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    2words

    But Iceman didn’t have physicals either… you’re saying you have to give Kendrick an advantage to win? Why can’t you compare it as is, it’s definitely a better comparison then O Rod, a bundle artist

    She's not a bundle artist

    SOUR has 17B streams on Spotify alone

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    2words

    But Iceman didn’t have physicals either… you’re saying you have to give Kendrick an advantage to win? Why can’t you compare it as is, it’s definitely a better comparison then O Rod, a bundle artist

    Based on the last time Drake did physicals for a project, it wouldn't have been much of a boost. Also, based on his lyrics, he clearly thinks releasing your music on vinyl is a gimmick

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    shaleirose

    She's not a bundle artist

    SOUR has 17B streams on Spotify alone

    60% of your first week being some color vinyl that your fans will never play puts you in that category to me. The pop artists have to do this because they don’t stream well. Drake above that s*** and does what they do without the extras

  • John Mauve

    all sales are fraudulent except Drake

  • 2words

    60% of your first week being some color vinyl that your fans will never play puts you in that category to me. The pop artists have to do this because they don’t stream well. Drake above that s*** and does what they do without the extras

    SOUR did 218K streaming first week

    Currently has 17B streams on Spotify

    Pop albums never have crazy high debut streaming weeks

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    shaleirose

    Based on the last time Drake did physicals for a project, it wouldn't have been much of a boost. Also, based on his lyrics, he clearly thinks releasing your music on vinyl is a gimmick

    I don’t think that’s what he was saying with that line

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    2words

    I don’t think that’s what he was saying with that line

    Not just that line, he's dissed pure sales numerous times over the past few years

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    If Olivia Rodrigo doesn't stream well, how does SOUR have 17 billion streams?

    That's more than every Drake album btw

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    shaleirose

    If Olivia Rodrigo doesn't stream well, how does SOUR have 17 billion streams?

    That's more than every Drake album btw

    Stop moving the goalposts, we’re talking about first week and you said yourself pop acts don’t stream that well first week. This a new level of bad faith arguing lol I was repeating something you said but it’s wrong if I say it

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    2words

    Stop moving the goalposts, we’re talking about first week and you said yourself pop acts don’t stream that well first week. This a new level of bad faith arguing lol I was repeating something you said but it’s wrong if I say it

    Yes. I said pop artists never have super high debut streaming weeks (except Taylor)

    That doesn't mean they don't stream well in the longrun

    Rap is the genre that's more about the first week, pop is the opposite