A song having a billion streams does not automatically equate to a major hit in the streaming era. There are deep cuts that reach a billion streams after years of being out, because that's possible now with streaming.
You didn’t say major hit. Stop moving the goal posts. You said real hit. 1b streams is a hit no matter how you slice it.
In Your Eyes by The Weeknd has a billion streams, that's not a major hit record whatsoever he don't even perform it on tour
congrats to drake on another week at #1
Funny how you completely ignore the nuance as to why this was the case lol. 2021 and 2025 music climates were completely different
Jimmy Cooks spent longer on the Hot 100 than every song on CLB except for Knife Talk. Was 2022's climate drastically different from the climate in September 2021?
You didn’t say major hit. Stop moving the goal posts. You said real hit. 1b streams is a hit no matter how you slice it.
Real hit = major hit
I've literally always said major hit when talking about CLB, I mean the same thing when I say "real" hit
1B streams isn't always a hit, not in the streaming era. It could easily be a deep cut that's just popular amongst the fanbase
peekaboo spent more weeks on the Hot 100 than every single song on CLB. That should answer the question about that album having huge songs lmao
So heat waves and lose control have surpassed Blinding lights as the biggest hit of all time according to your logic?
In Your Eyes by The Weeknd has a billion streams, that's not a major hit record whatsoever he don't even perform it on tour
You keep saying major hit when you said “real hit” at first. There’s a big difference it’s okay to admit you were wrong
So heat waves and lose control have surpassed Blinding lights as the biggest hit of all time according to your logic?
On paper yes, those songs are more successful. But Blinding Lights is still the most-streamed song of all-time, so I think that's a big factor
Real hit = major hit
I've literally always said major hit when talking about CLB, I mean the same thing when I say "real" hit
1B streams isn't always a hit, not in the streaming era. It could easily be a deep cut that's just popular amongst the fanbase
Real hit ≠ major hit
Not all hits are created the same
You keep saying major hit when you said “real hit” at first. There’s a big difference it’s okay to admit you were wrong
Real hit and major hit mean the exact same things to me. I use the terms interchangeably, they’re synonymous.
Real hit ≠ major hit
Not all hits are created the same
I’ve explained already that the terms are synonymous to me. If you can’t get that, then just think of “major hit” when I say real hit
Real hit and major hit mean the exact same things to me. I use the terms interchangeably, they’re synonymous.
That’s the problem. They shouldn’t be used interchangeably. Language matters. You were wrong and that’s okay
I’ve explained already that the terms are synonymous to me. If you can’t get that, then just think of “major hit” when I say real hit
“Major hit” is just cope to move the goalposts. You aren’t the determining factor that dictates what’s considered a hit or even a major hit
That’s the problem. They shouldn’t be used interchangeably. Language matters. You were wrong and that’s okay
The words mean the exact same thing. If you say something is the “real deal”, you mean it is a very high quality version of whatever thing you’re talking about
“Major hit” is just cope to move the goalposts. You aren’t the determining factor that dictates what’s considered a hit or even a major hit
It’s not cope at all, you told me that saying CLB doesn’t have a major hit was a personal anecdote and I provided numerous data points as to how I came to that conclusion
Where’s the cope?
The words mean the exact same thing. If you say something is the “real deal”, you mean it is a very high quality version of whatever thing you’re talking about
It’s not the same exact thing. A “real” hit doesn’t have the be “major” for it to be a hit
It’s not cope at all, you told me that saying CLB doesn’t have a major hit was a personal anecdote and I provided numerous data points as to how I came to that conclusion
Where’s the cope?
You provided multiple data points showing why you THINK it’s not a hit. 1b streams says otherwise
A song doesn’t have to be massive for it be a hit. Once again, hits come in different forms. Not every hit song is a sure fire 10+ week #1
It literally says that it is a longer running number 1 than clb right there, there's your measurable metric
it says since clb
It’s not the same exact thing. A “real” hit doesn’t have the be “major” for it to be a hit
It’s the exact same thing.
Even if you don’t agree that it is, you’re ignoring the fact that I use the terms interchangeably and you’re harping on the fact to detract from everything else I said
You provided multiple data points showing why you THINK it’s not a hit. 1b streams says otherwise
A song doesn’t have to be massive for it be a hit. Once again, hits come in different forms. Not every hit song is a sure fire 10+ week #1
And again, I’ve said ten times now I’m referring to major hit records, I never said CLB didn’t have any hits at all
It’s the exact same thing.
Even if you don’t agree that it is, you’re ignoring the fact that I use the terms interchangeably and you’re harping on the fact to detract from everything else I said
I’m not ignoring the fact that you use the terms interchangeably. I literally keep on saying you’re wrong for doing so lol
And again, I’ve said ten times now I’m referring to major hit records, I never said CLB didn’t have any hits at all
Yeah you’ve made it clear now you’ve switched the goalposts. Who cares
it says since clb
I missed that, but Iceman could still be his biggest album this decade depending on the longevity. Much more potential hits
I missed that, but Iceman could still be his biggest album this decade depending on the longevity. Much more potential hits
you're underestimating how big clb's numbers are streaming wise. Iceman is too rap focused to capture all the different demographics that clb did
Best-selling and biggest are two entirely different things
Drake is arguably the biggest rapper of all-time, but Eminem is still the best-selling rapper ever
you make a great point here actually
so what you’re confirming here is one is subjective and one is fact based, correct?