when was he ever a huge name for people out side of hardcore hiphop fans? bro how old were you when he dropped his first tape like 5 lmfaoooo dude really bringing up monthly listeners on spotify.
And what is the "eyes of the public" people who were fans of him before are still bmping the s*** and I think it was one of the greatest albums of the past couple years and well see how it ages. You think the "public eye" is who was bumping jay elect?
swear yall be sayin anything for some hot take
I think Jay Elect wants to be in the public eye and get a "kendrick or Jay-Z" type fame. I think he bought in to his own hype, and all the people who bumped his first releases are not bumping this album. Allot of his old supporters was s***ting on this
i actually think jay elect revels in being a best kept secret and being favored by a specific group of people and contemporaries. yet, he also is insecure when the spotlight.
he's referenced "The Alchemist" and transforming into the wind on a couple of songs.
I think that serves both his mystique that he cultivates as well as his insecurity.
I think Jay Elect wants to be in the public eye and get a "kendrick or Jay-Z" type fame. I think he bought in to his own hype, and all the people who bumped his first releases are not bumping this album. Allot of his old supporters was s***ting on this
I promise you a lot of the people who bumped the album are still bumping it. You're making a lot of assumptions that really don't matter towards the art side of s***.
i actually think jay elect revels in being a best kept secret and being favored by a specific group of people and contemporaries. yet, he also is insecure when the spotlight.
he's referenced "The Alchemist" and transforming into the wind on a couple of songs.
I think that serves both his mystique that he cultivates as well as his insecurity.
i actually think jay elect revels in being a best kept secret and being favored by a specific group of people and contemporaries. yet, he also is insecure when the spotlight.
he's referenced "The Alchemist" and transforming into the wind on a couple of songs.
I think that serves both his mystique that he cultivates as well as his insecurity.
The Alchemist isn't really a valid point of evidence to back up that take. The transformation into the wind isn't in order to escape, which I think seems to be the a***ogy you're drawing. When Jay uses that line in Ezekiel's Wheel its to mean staying true to himself and his values, substance over transience in regards to his music, and the time and self-reflection that takes.
I can see that being part of it for sure, but coupled with the two lines before it, I think there’s a lot of self doubt in whether his art is good enough for the pressure and pedestal he puts himself on. essentially never feeling good enough and always feeling he needs to improve, so he retreats to find it.
I promise you a lot of the people who bumped the album are still bumping it. You're making a lot of assumptions that really don't matter towards the art side of s***.
I am making assumptions, but I am also speaking some facts.
You are right about the fact that non of what I am writing has anything to do with the artistic side of the spectrum
album is still very good. all praise due to Hov for getting this over the finish line. having it be a joint album is f***in fine by me
Despite the criticism this album took, this is rap album of the year to me. When you really break down the lyrics, I don’t see how people say Hov out rapped JayElec. Besides Flux Capacitor the album has so much replay value. Royce and Boldly James gets honorable mention, but no one else is close.
Despite the criticism this album took, this is rap album of the year to me. When you really break down the lyrics, I don’t see how people say Hov out rapped JayElec. Besides Flux Capacitor the album has so much replay value. Royce and Boldly James gets honorable mention, but no one else is close.
agree although that rihanna sample is hard af - jay's hook though
Despite the criticism this album took, this is rap album of the year to me. When you really break down the lyrics, I don’t see how people say Hov out rapped JayElec. Besides Flux Capacitor the album has so much replay value. Royce and Boldly James gets honorable mention, but no one else is close.
I’ll never understand the hate for this album.
I’ll never understand the hate for this album.
I believe there are some valid and justifiable criticisms of the album.
"my train is on schedule" but I had to take the Underground Railroad like Harriet
Just Blaze talking Exhibit C & Jay's new album
24:18
!https://youtu.be/Yll_I9hVrCE?t=1456I feel like "paradigm shifter" isn't really the correct phrase to describe Exhibit C. This would imply that it had a large influence over the industry, which it didn't imo.
"Lightning in a bottle" is the better phrase here.
Just Blaze talking Exhibit C & Jay's new album
24:18
!https://youtu.be/Yll_I9hVrCE?t=1456Interesting to hear him talk about Act 2
If Jay really fell out of love with it
I feel like "paradigm shifter" isn't really the correct phrase to describe Exhibit C. This would imply that it had a large influence over the industry, which it didn't imo.
"Lightning in a bottle" is the better phrase here.
He said there wasnt really much traditional rap records on the radio, and I'm assume he meant that there was influx of these records played more
Interesting to hear him talk about Act 2
If Jay really fell out of love with it
I know man
I understand though if he wanted to do away with the Prestige and Acts trilogy theme. It was an idea he had as an up-and-comer in '07; it's unrealistic to expect someone to be tethered to that for their whole career as an artist.
Then again, sounds like Just Blaze is just giving his theory, so maybe the Acts are still a possibility. (Maybe the debut with Hov was Act 3.)
I did notice this on Jay's Spotify page:
"After a series of recordings failed to launch, Electronica scrapped everything he'd begun work on over the years and started afresh, writing and recording most of the material that wound up on his 2020 debut A Written Testimony in a short window of time just before the album's release."
Not sure what 'failed to launch' means here (or the writer's source for that information). Had he been expecting a larger reception from Letter to Falon and Road to Perdition, and didn't get it? Did he not find the sound he wanted? etc.
I know man
I understand though if he wanted to do away with the Prestige and Acts trilogy theme. It was an idea he had as an up-and-comer in '07; it's unrealistic to expect someone to be tethered to that for their whole career as an artist.
Then again, sounds like Just Blaze is just giving his theory, so maybe the Acts are still a possibility. (Maybe the debut with Hov was Act 3.)
I did notice this on Jay's Spotify page:
"After a series of recordings failed to launch, Electronica scrapped everything he'd begun work on over the years and started afresh, writing and recording most of the material that wound up on his 2020 debut A Written Testimony in a short window of time just before the album's release."
Not sure what 'failed to launch' means here (or the writer's source for that information). Had he been expecting a larger reception from Letter to Falon and Road to Perdition, and didn't get it? Did he not find the sound he wanted? etc.
Technically the inclusion of Shiny Suit Theory means he didn't scrap everything
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