That entire Santa Barbra scene where Ellie tricks dude into get bit is so fire
Ellie comes off so badass

I would be a better leader than you. I’m saying the big issues of the apocalpyse are figuring out how not to get torn to shreds by zombies. We need a safe way to kill millions of them that doesn’t get us murdered.

immunity seems like by far the biggest f***ing deal idiot

If theres less zombies out there, that definitely helps in not getting torn to shreds

That scene was so damn musty
Not needed especially since we didn’t even get to see Dina and Ellie do it

When near death, an Infected will find dark, moist corners to die in. While this may be the end for the host, the fungus continues to grow.

thelastofus.fandom.com/wiki/The_Infected

crazy. Humans don't even have to seek em out. They die on their own.

I literally just explained how there are hundreds of millions of zombies in the US alone and very few survivors

Even if all the survivors in the US except Ellie turned into zombies that’d be like 0.0000001% of the overall zombies

This apocalypse saved by a cure scenario makes no sense if the entire US is almost all zombies

this f***in idiot rly out here cool wit mfers dying for a tin can of food but sayin "nah Ellie should live cuz immunity for all is useless" then got the audacity to say he'd be a good leader

i f***ing cant lmfaooo

Abby’s musty ass
Cause Mel is ugly

i see the point you're making, in the current world even with a vaccine (that works and there was no guarantee of that) life remains as is with quarantine zones and avoidance being the main avenue of survival. so the vaccine would be helpful in saving people with minor bites/wounds that wouldn't get infected but even then they're at threat of dying anyways simply by the overwhelming numbers of the infected already.

resources are gathered primarily thorough rummaging through areas that are unexplored through what's left of the city. it is unlikely that life would return to the way it was. I agree with this premise because the virus initially spreads and begins in 2013 and 20 years have passed before Ellie is discovered to be immune. That damage seems irreversible. it is 25 years by TLOUII.

How you seeing the point? In Jackson, ppl like eugene, dina, ellie prob killed hundreds of zombies. Even if there are millions, if you got soldiers and people on patrol killing hundreds and hundreds of them without any runaways or dudes getting bit and adding to the ranks of zombies, that is going to decrease the overall amount of zombies.

End of the day, the humans are way smarter. The biggest issue with why they have been losing is the fact they can turn into zombies and the fact they have no unity and are all isolated from one another into factions tryna kill one another.

Unity doesn't come from a vaccine, if anything what would stop people from doing what Owen did? The game at points shows that people are sick of living like that. As irrational as that seems that is human nature and despite Owen's arc being a waste of time that was an interesting strand. A vaccine might empower people to do it on their own.

The organization you speak of would be difficult to organise given that the horde have a 25 year head start. I'm not disagreeing with what you're saying but at a certain point like the game survival might be best by avoiding them. They won't have the resources to clean them all up imo. Even if they did one bad expedition and you lose numbers that way, even with the vaccine (instead of turning they'd just die).

also that thugger dude is forgetting that Ellie technically dies repeatedly throughout the game, you don’t permanently die only because it’s a game.

I see where they're coming from but I also see where you are coming from.

The severity of the virus is being downplayed imo and the understanding of how society in the universe works, particularly with resources. The WLF are only well stocked imo because they overran FEDRA and have the whole of Seattle to themselves. And even during the days in Seattle you find artefacts with people defecting to the Seraphites. It's great world building on the part of ND.

well

even if you avoided em

they'd all die on their own accord

the whole point of the fungus is cuz those zombies pick a corner to die in when they reaching that point

Spore development is the last stage in the life cycle of the Infected. This lifeless carcass serves as a breeding ground for the fungus to spread throughout the environment. When near death, an Infected will find dark, moist corners to die in. While this may be the end for the host, the fungus continues to grow. The Last of Us game team has statedcitation needed that the people in the Quarantine Zones are relatively safe because they are in places with significant airflow, leading to a low spore concentration, explaining why the only places with significant spore toxicity tend to be underground or abandoned buildings.

So really at that point, it would become a 28 weeks later scenario. Where most zombies are dying or dead and now its about soldiers evacuating survivors from danger zones.

Also I'd say a big part of why Owen does what he does is because he feels like there is no end in sight to all the madness. A vaccine would be heavily inspirational because it would mean there is light at the end of the tunnel. its just a really long one.

The whole "ND wanted me to sympathize with abby and it didn't work" is such a dumb f***ing take.

Why the f*** would they want you to sympathize with a character that the first thing she does is to kill the most beloved character?

What nd wants it's to challenge, feel the nastiness, the awkwardness of playing with Joel's killer; at the same time they're not gonna give a one-note villain, she's gonna have nuance, understandable motifs, even parallel relationships.

She was always gonna be a controversial character from the get go, that was the intention.

Yeah I never sympathized with her. The whole point of that arc is that she isn't some cardboard cutout villain who wishes for bad things. She has legitimate reasons for her anger and she has her flaws just like Ellie and she grows as a character as well. It is maybe a little too abrupt to play as her but I think the whole point of Abby is not to make you support her but to realize that there are no sides in this game. The final decision made is still Ellie's. We care about Ellie and Joel and the developers are not telling you not to. I do think if they had maybe made Abby's s*** more like 5 hrs instead of 10 and made Ellie's segments longer and wrote more s*** for her to do in those 3 days, people would be less upset. But ultimately, I didn't have a problem with it.

Many narrative tactics used in this game. For me most of it landed and I understand, for those who actually played it and didn't enjoy most of the things thrown at them in a 25 hour game I feel bad for but it's what comes with this story.

Only 27% of people who have the game have actually finished it LMAO the gold trophy you get at the end is for anyone who completes it

damn that's a great take. ngl i was kinda feeling her character not because i was sympathizing with her but cause she just seemed to genuinely want to do good and her story was so differently from ellie's like the saving yara and lev s***. then i got heated as f*** when we had to fight ellie as her, was like f*** this bro i don't wanna do this s*** and when we fought her as ellie i was f*** yea KILL this b****

i think it was more to humanize abby, make her just not some murderous b**** tho

more interviews coming out

1. idk man i highly doubt ellie would have stopped herself from killing mel regardless. she had no regard for anything.

2. that's true, kind of weird abby and ellie could never speak a sentence to each other. they probably could've understood each other.

3. that's the thing tho, she didn't have the resilience to not chase after abby even though her life was made already. which is why i think she would've killed mel regardless, or anyone for that matter. she turned into a crazed killer. she practically sacrificed tommy when her and jesse split up.

Laura Bailey kinda fine