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  • Purrp 🌚
    Feb 20, 2023
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    Something is still off about the show. The changes are necessary for the change of medium but still. Maybe they needed a longer season?

  • Feb 20, 2023
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    ilgnd

    okay so that's a little exciting.

    now, if it doesn't happen...

    It is going to happen lol I just don't know if you will like what happens lmfao

  • Feb 20, 2023
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    DwindlingSun

    I've seen plenty of adaptations of novels/others games/plays that have still left an emotional imprint despite my awareness of the outcome.

    Of course I'm saying there should have been more conflict than there has been. They haven't established that this is a violent, scary world effectively enough and that's why there's so little tension in encounters like this one.

    Think about it: Joel taking on those raiders and getting impaled is the apex of danger that he will personally encounter in this season. And that was it??? No gunshots, no fear, no hiding about in the science lab, having to sneak through. In the game we would hear the enemy talking, calling us out, forming plans. In this, nothing.

    We, as the audience, should be terrified of those raiders, we should be on the edge of our seat. I certainly wasn't. A pack of 4 guys with pipes turned up, one of them for some reason had strayed from his group, got his neck snapped in 2 seconds and had magically managed to shiv Joel. It was extremely anticlimactic. I didn't feel any tension whatsoever. I didn't really think of them as a credible threat once. I really don't feel much fear at all for Joel's survival. I didn't feel like Ellie really does. Her having to carry him out in the game was so significant and tense.

    So far, if anything, Joel really is doing nothing to dispel the notion that he can't take care of Ellie effectively. He's barely had to fight anyone and when he does half the time they do seem to just get the jump on him out of nowhere. I'm not calling for him to be a superhuman am I. But he should feel tough and hardened and capable. I don't really feel that whatsoever because they've been so sparing with the violence.

    While a lot of what’s bothering you arnt issues for me, this is a good example of intelligently criticizing something without just being on same lame arbitrary s***. Good post.

  • Kr0niic ☘️
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    Feb 20, 2023
    HaroldsChicken

    but is it fair to say that to become the best video game adaptation ever it removed much of what made it game like so people are like this? Like yes it nails the cutscenes but it always was a movie like game

    This is a discussion question.

    No i don’t think it’s fair.

    It has literally removed nothing that has made the game great

    Not a single person thinks the gameplay and action in 1 is great. It was about the characters, dialogue, and drama. And always was. That is what this game and show is about. And they are f***ing nailing it

  • Purrp 🌚
    Feb 20, 2023
    DwindlingSun

    I HAVE ONLY POSTED IN THIS THREAD ONCE. I AM A BIG FAN OF THE GAMES. I THINK THE SHOW IS JUST OK. I AM NOT BLOWN AWAY BUT I AM ENJOYING IT ENOUGH TO KEEP TUNING IN. I WOULD LIKE MORE VIOLENCE, I BELIEVE IT TO BE A CRITICAL PART OF DEPICTING THE DANGEROUS NATURE OF THE WORLD THEY ARE NOW OCCUPYING. I ENJOYED BELLA RAMSEY'S PERFORMANCE THIS EPISODE. I THINK PEDRO PASCAL IS A FINE JOEL. HOWEVER, EVEN STILL, I FEEL LIKE SOME OF THE EMOTIONAL BEATS BETWEEN THEM FEEL RUSHED AND AREN'T QUITE MOVING ME AS I HAD HOPED, IN PARTICULAR THE CRITICAL DECISION JOEL MAKES TO GO WITH ELLIE.

  • Kr0niic ☘️
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    Feb 20, 2023
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    “Changes” are so f***ing overblown

    Literally nothing has been changed but bill

  • Feb 20, 2023
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    HaroldsChicken

    It is going to happen lol I just don't know if you will like what happens lmfao

    some of these clowns already spoiled that someone dies so it's a little shot for me. idk if that's now or later...

    but realistically, how is Joel supposed to survive this baseball bat injury? that man lost a ton of blood, horse rode, in the cold.

  • Kr0niic ☘️
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    Feb 20, 2023
    ilgnd

    some of these clowns already spoiled that someone dies so it's a little shot for me. idk if that's now or later...

    but realistically, how is Joel supposed to survive this baseball bat injury? that man lost a ton of blood, horse rode, in the cold.

    Wait till you hear how it’s done in the game. Even more far fetched

  • Feb 20, 2023
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    Purrp

    Something is still off about the show. The changes are necessary for the change of medium but still. Maybe they needed a longer season?

    I definitely hope the next season is at least 10 episodes. 12 would be a really nice place to be but I doubt they’ll do that many.

    While I’m pretty much just loving this so far, I think 2 more episodes on this season could’ve done wonders for added relationship depth and character progression.

  • Feb 20, 2023
    ilgnd

    i'm just looking for good tv man. again, i don't hate the show. i'm just bewildered at niggas foaming at the mouth for it. and are they only foaming because they're fans of the game? but they took a lot of the game out of the show? I JUST NEED HELP. HELP ME.

    Let niggas foam at the mouth for something they never thought would be possible. Its not an action violence tv show. In the game it is action violence focused. Pedro Joel not killing more in the show does affect his ability to properly defend Ellie yet he still tries so there is that I guess. the lines they are recreating of the game are cool. But at the end of the day the game is a different experience and to some degrees a different story. You also have to realize they are trying to set up for season 2 and 3/ game 2 story when last of us 1 they didn't know all that.

  • Feb 20, 2023
    NunTheWiser

    While a lot of what’s bothering you arnt issues for me, this is a good example of intelligently criticizing something without just being on same lame arbitrary s***. Good post.

    hats off to you for seeing that. I feel like the beginning some people would make post like this and someone would call it nitpicking or hating

  • Purrp 🌚
    Feb 20, 2023
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    NunTheWiser

    I definitely hope the next season is at least 10 episodes. 12 would be a really nice place to be but I doubt they’ll do that many.

    While I’m pretty much just loving this so far, I think 2 more episodes on this season could’ve done wonders for added relationship depth and character progression.

    Some of the beats just feel rushed. The show isn’t bad just not as good to me as someone who played the game.

  • Feb 20, 2023
    Purrp

    Something is still off about the show. The changes are necessary for the change of medium but still. Maybe they needed a longer season?

    show really a different telling of the story or the themes.

  • Feb 20, 2023
    NunTheWiser

    While a lot of what’s bothering you arnt issues for me, this is a good example of intelligently criticizing something without just being on same lame arbitrary s***. Good post.

  • Feb 20, 2023
    Purrp

    Some of the beats just feel rushed. The show isn’t bad just not as good to me as someone who played the game.

    I mean the journey has been much more empty wasteland than conflict of any kind . the time jumps a lot of them too eat away at a feeling of progression

  • Feb 20, 2023
    ilgnd

    some of these clowns already spoiled that someone dies so it's a little shot for me. idk if that's now or later...

    but realistically, how is Joel supposed to survive this baseball bat injury? that man lost a ton of blood, horse rode, in the cold.

    the gaming story was never "realistic" to me so them teleporting it to a tv show they are making it "realistic" which kind of changes the whole story

  • Kr0niic ☘️
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    Feb 20, 2023
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    The game has five times skips and y’all saying this is a rush when apparently the game wasn’t

  • Feb 20, 2023
    Kr0niic

    “Changes” are so f***ing overblown

    Literally nothing has been changed but bill

    more has been changed but bill come on now

  • Purrp 🌚
    Feb 20, 2023
    Kr0niic

    The game has five times skips and y’all saying this is a rush when apparently the game wasn’t

    It’s just a different medium. We spend so much more time building the relationship in the game. Time skips in a show are different idk

  • Feb 20, 2023
    Kr0niic

    The game has five times skips and y’all saying this is a rush when apparently the game wasn’t

    when you remove the gameplay parts or violence AND have the time skips that is why it feels rushed . I am not saying we needed constant action but rather than a swarm of large infected in episode 5 could have sprinkled them throughout the season better to create more intimate moments of tenseness.

  • Feb 20, 2023
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    think its p clear the show is about relationships not violence so thats what i want to see

  • Feb 20, 2023
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    Synopsis

    think its p clear the show is about relationships not violence so thats what i want to see

    I am wondering how season finale, season 2 and 3 will adapt to this is all I am saying. I agree though

  • Feb 20, 2023
    Purrp

    Some of the beats just feel rushed. The show isn’t bad just not as good to me as someone who played the game.

    Yeah there are definitely things that have felt rushed. I think my biggest criticism so far would be I would’ve liked to see Joel and Ellie bonding the way they did in the the last 20 minutes of this weeks episode a little sooner. And maybe not ON the level they are on at the end of this episode, just just a more gradual shift because I did feel like when they left Jackson a switch was flipped in their relationship.

    We did get to see glimpses of it, like Joel panicking in the sniper spot to protect Ellie from the infected swarm, but some more “friendship” type dialogue would’ve helped I think

  • Feb 20, 2023
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    HaroldsChicken

    I am wondering how season finale, season 2 and 3 will adapt to this is all I am saying. I agree though

    theyll have different themes

  • Feb 20, 2023
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    HaroldsChicken

    I am wondering how season finale, season 2 and 3 will adapt to this is all I am saying. I agree though

    Season finale spoilers I could see Joel like only killing Abby’s dad and Marlene rather than shooting up the entire building idk