So is Ian a trash manager?
they just got no leverage. That's not Ian's fault. Spotify got what they wanted from the pod. I assume the pod too
So is Ian a trash manager?
No
The original deal they took for is bad in hindsight
Nobody knew were podcasting would go
8 months in it was clear but Spotify didn't wanna revamp the deal
He could of left at anytime but his decided to honor to contract
The people Joe retweets on Twitter ride his d*** so hard it’s insane.
Lmfaoo
Lmfaoo
This is exactly what I was talking about
dudes think they can be the next Savon if they d*** ride hard enough
This guy screams white privilege tbh
Never seen a video
Yeah, dude put in the work though
"They go off numbers, we go off energy" what is Joe talking about
They had boff numbers and energy
bunch of annoying dweebs itt today I see
Lol Joe/Ian might be the worst negotiaters in his history.
1. Always get healthcare
2. Always get vacation time
3. Get paid your value
Just because someone like Joe Rogan / Obama’s / Amy Schmuer negotiates better than you doesn’t mean you automatically get a similar deal or better deal later.
Feel bad for the guys tho. Spotify is simply banking on their other podcasts they have now. JPB no longer has leverage. Spotify spent so much money acquiring those other pods they obviously cannot sustain that for ever. Purchasing gimlet and parcast is a major move.
Lol Joe/Ian might be the worst negotiaters in his history.
1. Always get healthcare
2. Always get vacation time
3. Get paid your value
Just because someone like Joe Rogan / Obama’s / Amy Schmuer negotiates better than you doesn’t mean you automatically get a similar deal or better deal later.
Feel bad for the guys tho. Spotify is simply banking on their other podcasts they have now. JPB no longer has leverage. Spotify spent so much money acquiring those other pods they obviously cannot sustain that for ever. Purchasing gimlet and parcast is a major move.
This stupid
Shumar, Rogan and Obama are 10x bigger names than Budden lmao
They had major leverage at the start, which probably wasn't even much negations with them
Budden didn't, but do agree should If at least got your vacation time
"You probably aren't from a business background"
Nigga shut up😂. None of this industry contract s*** is as simple as you and the other armchair ceo niggas make it out to be. Your just a random speculating.
Like I said they literally addressed this before when talking about meg's deal that companies obviously play dirty with this s***. It's not as cut and dry as your imagining.
And also once again to everybody, PLEASE STOP DEFENDING COMPANIES
Just wanna point out that meg is under roc nation management too
They're trying to get her out of that deal with 1501...
The pod is big on protecting their connections and roc nations artists/affiliates are to be protected since Mal is Biggs little brother...
I'd recommend taking their opinion on meg with a grain of salt tbh
Bottom line though if they worth what they think they worth then somebody will pay em... Tidal deal probably coming soon
Or Apple if they really wanna jump back into the podcast game
You can also tell Rory and Mal leave it up to Joe & Ian to negotiate. I know damn well Rory would of made sure basic benefits (health, vacation etc.) would have been in that contract from his conventional office job he used to work.
The people Joe retweets on Twitter ride his d*** so hard it’s insane.
Lol he be rallying the “creatives” on Twitter with their 59 podcast listens weekly to quit their day jobs ⚰️⚰️
"They go off numbers, we go off energy" what is Joe talking about
lol on God. Like he sounded real stupid for most of the Pod as compared to when he talks about other people's deal.
Wonder how the rest of the team really feel about the decision because it feels like its just been Joe and Ian negotiating.
The discussion about the insights Spotify gained due to the JBP being part of the renegotiation is wild.
As a company my insights are gained based of me taking a risk with the first deal. Why should my insight gained be part of reassessing your value.
Yes they were guinea pigs and they got paid for the 2 years. Once again how many people did the JBP convert from not being Spotify users to being paid users. That should be the KPI Spotify bases off the renegotiation.
And Tidal not giving them a***ytics is wild.
This stupid
Shumar, Rogan and Obama are 10x bigger names than Budden lmao
They had major leverage at the start, which probably wasn't even much negations with them
Budden didn't, but do agree should If at least got your vacation time
the video being released on youtube also probably screwed up their initial deal. The deal from the start was bound to go to s***