Mar 24·1 replyRap in its essence is a capitalist genre. Sure lots of anti establishment politics in rap but its always been in service of cementing yourself at the top in the same structure like jayz. Get rich or die trying. Nothing about this is surprising
its better if some people accept it instead of trying to make it something its not
Mar 24·1 reply
eye contactCapitalism does not demand free trade lmao
Is that not the philosophical basis of capitalism?
- Mar 24·1 replywhitegirl
Is that not the philosophical basis of capitalism?
That is a tenet of a morally idealist model philosophized by theorists
It’s not what capitalism is founded on or something it actually needs in real life.
Mar 24kurapikaRap in its essence is a capitalist genre. Sure lots of anti establishment politics in rap but its always been in service of cementing yourself at the top in the same structure like jayz. Get rich or die trying. Nothing about this is surprising
its better if some people accept it instead of trying to make it something its not
ehh not at its inception tho, it was anti-establishment mixed with black radicalism
Mar 24
CRACKASTEPPAVEGANAll those "if you ain't talking money" raps were a catalyst to the bullshyt
Mar 24covid isolation def played a part
- Mar 24·1 replyeye contact
That is a tenet of a morally idealist model philosophized by theorists
It’s not what capitalism is founded on or something it actually needs in real life.
I deadass think u got it backwards
Capitalism was hijacked by the powers that already existed, the problem isnt capitalism itself, its how its implemented by the global elites
- Mar 24·1 replywhitegirl
I deadass think u got it backwards
Capitalism was hijacked by the powers that already existed, the problem isnt capitalism itself, its how its implemented by the global elites
You’re wrong, but even then, if a system can be hijacked then it’s not a good system
Let’s move on and build something else
Mar 24·2 replies
Free YoungBoyThink about all the biggest rappers we have now that are 30 and under. How many do you think are actually equipped to get political in their music
Doechii, Kodak, Lil Baby, NBA, Glorilla, Cordae, Tierra Whack, BigX, Rod Wave if he went community pain route
it’s a couple more I’m sure plenty here can name
- Mar 24·1 reply
This simple ain’t need you too write a whole essay. If you are that rich you are compromised/sold your soul. Your music isn’t getting spinned worlwide without some higher up giving the green light first. Yall need to stop lookin as these people as saviors.
Mar 24·1 replyI’ve come to realize this isn’t as much of a caring to speak up issue as it is a “I don’t think I can make hits that are equally conscious and cool” issue
So the question is: can they?
- Mar 24Valentine
Doechii, Kodak, Lil Baby, NBA, Glorilla, Cordae, Tierra Whack, BigX, Rod Wave if he went community pain route
it’s a couple more I’m sure plenty here can name
Non of them care about the common folk or the hood even unless it’s their homie
- Mar 24·1 replyBRAVE
I’ve come to realize this isn’t as much of a caring to speak up issue as it is a “I don’t think I can make hits that are equally conscious and cool” issue
So the question is: can they?
The Bigger Picture, June 2020
yes, they definitely can and choose not to
- Mar 24·1 replyFree YoungBoy
Think about all the biggest rappers we have now that are 30 and under. How many do you think are actually equipped to get political in their music
“Equipped” that’s another problem. Enough of the idea that you need to have a specific style and articulation to be able to speak on social issues
They’re black people in America at the end of the day, like yeah it shouldn’t be ONLY left to us but their very existence makes it unavoidable
- Mar 24Valentine
Doechii, Kodak, Lil Baby, NBA, Glorilla, Cordae, Tierra Whack, BigX, Rod Wave if he went community pain route
it’s a couple more I’m sure plenty here can name
A lot of these rappers I actually agree with
- Mar 24aLIEN
I think as nobodies we're not really in a position to tell someone whose every word is scrutinized under a magnifying glass what to do
So niggas can’t have thoughts and standards? What type of idol worshipping is this, f*** that the listeners line these artists pockets they should be listening
- Mar 24·1 replyBRAVE
“Equipped” that’s another problem. Enough of the idea that you need to have a specific style and articulation to be able to speak on social issues
They’re black people in America at the end of the day, like yeah it shouldn’t be ONLY left to us but their very existence makes it unavoidable
You do have to be equipped. Otherwise you spout respectability politics s*** like Travis Scott and Kendrick have. Also we gotta be real, most people simply don’t know s***. We gotta bring back looking into s*** before you speak on it
- Mar 24Free YoungBoy
You do have to be equipped. Otherwise you spout respectability politics s*** like Travis Scott and Kendrick have. Also we gotta be real, most people simply don’t know s***. We gotta bring back looking into s*** before you speak on it
I get this
- Mar 24Troy Ave Stan
This simple ain’t need you too write a whole essay. If you are that rich you are compromised/sold your soul. Your music isn’t getting spinned worlwide without some higher up giving the green light first. Yall need to stop lookin as these people as saviors.
their messaging definitely gets lost when they keep having to opine to their masters they think we don’t see that they’re vying for position next to
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we need the return of punk
HBDUSA 🇺🇸OPMar 24
Oblivion XWhile I don't think looking to artists to be a voice for the masses is an absurd thing and it is definitely something that should be encouraged, because like you said there's precedent for it. I still dont think it should be their responsibility or something to criticize them for if they dont. For every Nina Simones, Fela Kutis, Harry Belafontes during those times, there were probably significantly more artists that didn't use their art in the same manner. Which is why the former stood out.
Because there's just people who aren't equipped to utilize their art as medium for political thought and when they attempt to, they look and sound crazy....La Russell for example.
And the artists that are capable of doing so, are more hesitatant to do so because how music listeners are in this day and age. They dont really want political and concious music all that much. And when they do get it, they nitpick it a part to pieces. That shift happened back in 2016 tbh. I think we give artists and labels a lot of s*** but not nearly enough smoke to the fans and listeners for how that type of music is received.
I agree that we shouldn’t look to an individual person for this, but looking at the genre as a whole I think it’s valid criticism.
But also I’m not going to say I need a certain artist to make a statement, but if they claim to be a GOAT or like how Kanye used to say he was a voice of a generation, then I think that it could be expected.
- Mar 24eye contact
You’re wrong, but even then, if a system can be hijacked then it’s not a good system
Let’s move on and build something else
I agree with the last part for sure
- HBDUSA 🇺🇸OPMar 24Free YoungBoy
People spent the last 10 years calling conscious/political music lame and try hard now this is where we are. The listeners just don’t have an appetite for it and the aspiring rappers we have now weren’t influenced by it enough to incorporate it into their music.
The void that conscious music used to fill in the culture entertainment space has been filled by comedians and podcasters. Many of them being grifters and already bought and paid for
I get what you’re saying but like a song can have a political message without it outright taking the “conscious” label
Like look outside the genre of hip-hop
This s*** was a f***ing hit
And if an artist is big enough, the rabble on social media ain’t going to have s*** to say when he goes for it
