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  • Mar 13, 2021
    imdoinf

    Endless 🐐

  • Mar 13, 2021
    DonutHole
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    His explanation is pretty clear, makes sense and is consistent with his views on music

    He wanted frank to sing on his album not rap, period 💅

    Has Brian collabed with frank ever since ? No

    Has Brian collabed with an artist that rapped on his song? (idk but I highly doubt it)

    Not everyone likes rap music especially older generations

    even prince has spoken out against some aspects of rap music -

    But I think this was moreso Brian saying I wanted the song to be like this (frank singing) and not like that (with the rap)

    Imo it isn't far fetched to think he prefers singing over rapping 🤔

    Idk unless he's controlled by his label to say things regularly (idk bout that but I tought he's free now, I hope so)

    Brian seems too carefree to submit to pr pressure

    Moreover Idk why they wouldn't put frank on the album even if he's rapping to appeal to younger audiences/sell more/get more streams

    Frank is huge (especially around that time) it's not a smart business move to cut him from the record - this reads more like a artistic decision than a business one

    If his wife made that decision she's a bad business woman

    @Ithaka

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    They have the right kind of thing
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    Makes me wanna sing it to you

  • Mar 13, 2021
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    DonutHole

    His explanation is pretty clear, makes sense and is consistent with his views on music

    He wanted frank to sing on his album not rap, period 💅

    Has Brian collabed with frank ever since ? No

    Has Brian collabed with an artist that rapped on his song? (idk but I highly doubt it)

    Not everyone likes rap music especially older generations

    even prince has spoken out against some aspects of rap music -

    But I think this was moreso Brian saying I wanted the song to be like this (frank singing) and not like that (with the rap)

    Imo it isn't far fetched to think he prefers singing over rapping 🤔

    this is from 1990

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    This picture from page 1

    Kanye in a picture. Just posting because 🐐

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    ithaka

    this is from 1990

    !https://youtu.be/id4a_eswyvk

    Cool

    He still cut frank from the song

    Prince has songs rapping/ft rappers and still talked alot against certains aspects of rap

    Rap back then isn't what it is now...

    Brian admitted he never heard Kanye west's music....

    This one song doesn't prove he likes rap in general especially not modern rap....

    Maybe he really just wanted frank to sing but frank changed up? How is that a pr move?

    You still have to point to why this is a pr move in your opinion - a pr move being a public relations move - that part doesn't make sense to me

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    Eyesonthesmile
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    This picture from page 1

    Kanye in a picture. Just posting because 🐐

    💀 💀 💀 💀

    Another big artists of our time is Kanye West. You’ve worked with him in the past for charity. Have you ever listened to his music?
    No, I haven’t.

    Source-Brian wilson interview

  • Mar 13, 2021

    20/20 listen coming in 20 minutes

  • Mar 13, 2021
    Eyesonthesmile

    This picture from page 1

    Kanye in a picture. Just posting because 🐐

    Kanye is a legend, agreed

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    Stepped over graves
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  • Mar 13, 2021
    ithaka

    this is from 1990

    !https://youtu.be/id4a_eswyvk

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    About to turn on 20-20 (1969)

    Do it again is a bop

    The album is beautiful 🏖☀️

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    DonutHole

    Cool

    He still cut frank from the song

    Prince has songs rapping/ft rappers and still talked alot against certains aspects of rap

    Rap back then isn't what it is now...

    Brian admitted he never heard Kanye west's music....

    This one song doesn't prove he likes rap in general especially not modern rap....

    Maybe he really just wanted frank to sing but frank changed up? How is that a pr move?

    You still have to point to why this is a pr move in your opinion - a pr move being a public relations move - that part doesn't make sense to me

    the song was an example as to brian trying some rap despite being bad or whatever - not that he listens to it, brian doesn’t listen to rap

    im saying there’s no way frank was influenced by the bbs and then when got a shot to work with the harmonies legend years later said nah i wanna rap, i think brian’s camp saw a different marketing opportunity and made the shots for brian, this whole album was label made in the first place, so this decision is absolutely a label pr move, some bbs oldheads prolly weren’t happy and so they cut it off and told brian what to say to justify it and replace with s***ty artists

    ofc frank and lana wouldve been far more relevant collaborations, but the label sees it differently marketing wise they want to target it specifically

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    speaking about his influences, he said: “When I was making the first album there were a group of artists that I listened to, just for inspiration and to absorb the energies.

    “It was a lot of Stevie Wonder, and this time it’s a lot of Beach Boys and Beatles and whatnot, so we’ll see how it trickles into the music and the final product. I can’t say much other than that.”

    Source

    To me it sounds more like Frank ocean tried to swagger jack their sauce because they're legends

    I might revisit blonde album to see if their influences came through but I didn't hear it first time around

    This comment..... what the HECK DONUTHOLE 😡😡😡😡

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    sfsorrow

    This comment..... what the HECK DONUTHOLE 😡😡😡😡

    that what it sounds like to me lol - I don't mean to offend frank ocean fans

    Can anyone link me the songs on the blonde album where the beach Boys/blonde influence is recognizable?

    like beyond reasonable doubt here's the song(s) where their imprint is all over

    Frank said that (before he finished) he was listening to the goats

    After the album came out, he didn't comment on those influences again (correct me if I'm wrong)

    Seems like a pattern with him is to name legends before his album drops as he said that for channel orange he was influenced by stevie wonder

    I think he's genuine about listening to these legends during his creative process but not for the reasons y'all think he is... That's just my imo though

  • G Roy 🩻
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    ithaka

    this is from 1990

    !https://youtu.be/id4a_eswyvk

    how am i just finding out this exists 😭😭😭😭

  • rvi 🦜
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    DonutHole

    that what it sounds like to me lol - I don't mean to offend frank ocean fans

    Can anyone link me the songs on the blonde album where the beach Boys/blonde influence is recognizable?

    like beyond reasonable doubt here's the song(s) where their imprint is all over

    Frank said that (before he finished) he was listening to the goats

    After the album came out, he didn't comment on those influences again (correct me if I'm wrong)

    Seems like a pattern with him is to name legends before his album drops as he said that for channel orange he was influenced by stevie wonder

    I think he's genuine about listening to these legends during his creative process but not for the reasons y'all think he is... That's just my imo though

    people get mad here if anyone says something about Blonde that isnt praising it as the greatest album of all time

  • G Roy 🩻
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    DonutHole

    His explanation is pretty clear, makes sense and is consistent with his views on music

    He wanted frank to sing on his album not rap, period 💅

    Has Brian collabed with frank ever since ? No

    Has Brian collabed with an artist that rapped on his song? (idk but I highly doubt it)

    Not everyone likes rap music especially older generations

    even prince has spoken out against some aspects of rap music -

    But I think this was moreso Brian saying I wanted the song to be like this (frank singing) and not like that (with the rap)

    Imo it isn't far fetched to think he prefers singing over rapping 🤔

    imo, it's just kinda far fetched that Frank would even suggest rapping on a song with Brian. Frank's a very vocal Beach Boys stan so why when giving the chance to work with Brian he decides "ya know what? I wanna rap all of a sudden" like idk that seems like a sus story to me lol

  • Mar 13, 2021
    ithaka

    the song was an example as to brian trying some rap despite being bad or whatever - not that he listens to it, brian doesn’t listen to rap

    im saying there’s no way frank was influenced by the bbs and then when got a shot to work with the harmonies legend years later said nah i wanna rap, i think brian’s camp saw a different marketing opportunity and made the shots for brian, this whole album was label made in the first place, so this decision is absolutely a label pr move, some bbs oldheads prolly weren’t happy and so they cut it off and told brian what to say to justify it and replace with s***ty artists

    ofc frank and lana wouldve been far more relevant collaborations, but the label sees it differently marketing wise they want to target it specifically

    If that's true, that label dumb asl

    Frank hasn't commented on this either which makes this story not convincing at all

    I'd expect frank to be at least upset about not being on a Brian wilson album - (according to the claim he's an influence on him)

    maybe frank doesn't feel wronged at all, idk

  • Mar 13, 2021
    rvi

    people get mad here if anyone says something about Blonde that isnt praising it as the greatest album of all time

    I don't think it is, not even close imo
    But we're all entitled to our opinions

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    lotta reviews mentions the influence of the bbs on blonde even the albums wiki page brings it up

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    rvi

    people get mad here if anyone says something about Blonde that isnt praising it as the greatest album of all time

    im not mad but it is

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    G Roy

    how am i just finding out this exists 😭😭😭😭

    tbh i like the chorus lol

    and he did lot of own samples of the bbs on his own song which wasn’t a thing back then like idk who else did that