he's functionally a cop no matter the version of gotham u place him in. not to mention the procedural mystery in the first film wasnt even good or complex lol

Someone who's also the same age: Brian Cranston?

Reeves has kept mentioning that his crime saga will keep diving deeper in to the corruption of Gotham .
So I’m definitely thinking Part II will have a “main” villian, but behind the scenes the Court Of Owls are really the ones controlling everyone like puppets

Yeah hoping to see the detective side this movie even if beginning of his career . I need a villain I see the vision with more than sympathy or “ he crazy “ this movie . That’s what made heath ledger so good the all according to plan speech . Idea that I do understand him even if he takes it too far .

So so soon

Viggo or clive owen ive wanted clive as black mask for years, he would kill it at dent too

This video brings up and interesting theory

What if Scarlett isn't Gilda Dent, but what if she's Jessica Dent, Harvey' sister who has a past with Bruce (introduced in the Batman: Earth One comic)

Saw part of this last night and meant to post. Good looks. There def is something to what Gilda appears here (as far as we know) more than just a Holiday-type character.

Earth One already has inspo on The Batman so Jessica Dent is absolutely worth looking at. Phantasm too. Both Christopher and Gilda are seemingly wild cards that i feel like Reeves will take complete liberty with. Doubt she'll purely be 1 of those characters

Really hoping somehow they at least use Leslie Thompkins from this. Tomlin wrote her so well. Or maybe even Ventriloquist as a minor character eventually.

Enjoyed this story a ton. Fits right into this universe

I never understand these statements lol

A “good Batman movie”.

What is that, like a participation award?

A good movie is a good movie…

It’s an adaptation, saying one is a “better Batman movie” is saying that one does a better job of adapting the character & world of Batman

Court of owls makes no sense in this batman universe.

He's a young batman
And its extremely grounded

I don’t necessarily agree. The “world of Batman” is so varied and expansive, everything is just an interpretation of the different eras.

Like, Adam West Batman could be called a great adaption of Batman. That wouldn’t be an invalid statement…

Need that Gunnverse movie

Batmobile chase from the first one was still one of the most cathartic experiences

It definitely can fit here though. Its a secret society of elites who wear masks, run the city and have assassins. How far it goes from there is up to the creative. Embedding it in within the specific narrative or history of Gotham you're telling is the important part

Also i agree on preferring a veteran Batman, but at the same time, it's a bit of a reach for a detective to have been in the city that long, uncovered so much, but have no clue about the Court. If this is continuously going to focus on crime, corruption and Gotham's history the Court is a pretty fitting encounter come Part 3. They've left many doors open for it here.

I feel like if they re-did Batman canon, he would have discovered that far earlier. It was the very first story of a Batman reboot

Yeah but if u just reduced it down to secret society of corrupt elites that run gotham then its not far off from the plot of The first film but just with assassins even down to uncovering secrets of his family legacy.

One of the main theme of that storyline is that batman doesnt know Gotham as well as he thought he did, and the court uses this to their advantage to manipulate him

Then you have the immortal zombie element. Just seems like a better storyline for the dcu

Omg He's 40 years old. Can they please just age this nigga up to an experienced Batman

This starts filming in the spring or summer?

I'm more so saying that's what it is at its core. Any adaptation was always going to be altered to fit this world. I think the conceptual fit to what this world is focused on with Gotham matters more than the undead Talon thing, which can easily be changed and isn't crucial to the Court's primary function. We need all of Part 2, which we don't even know the potential plot of, before we even get there.

I'd rather see the story adapted on a Gotham that's spending the time this is fleshing out the city's history and Bruce's background or else the stakes just aren't there.

Also doesn't this Batman also face a dilemma too? He doesn't understand Gotham as well as he thinks either. He was out there for 18 months every night and missed obvious things.

Court of Owls is a classic story, but never managed to be a mainstay beyond its first appearances. Ironically, i think this is one of those villains that actually works better grounded, since the members need to be relevant also.

I think the Gotham show (live action debut; teenage Bruce), with all of its later fantastical elements, made a great choice to alter Talons to be kidnapped orphans trained to be loyal servants rather than undead assassins. That's far more meaningful and relevant to Bruce.

Also, changing Penguin's surname to Cobb is just about the biggest Court of Owls red flag ever. Idc what excuse they give for this. They conveniently went with the one surname that gives them the option to utilize Oz uniquely.

this - the dark knight is great, but batman is kinda fasc in it and the political themes of harvey dent and batman as parallels get a little wonky since they both seem to be in favor of a dictatorship.

Batman just like...only one time i swear bro

April/May

just hoping for a single villain (court of owls can be one villain) all this multiple villains s*** always kinda sucks