p*** being accsessible is part of the problem

horniness doesnt exist in a vacuum. eventually you start wanting more and more taboo s*** which is why niggas do what this dude did

Sexual objectification of women isn't really a new concept and I don't believe p*** has much to do with it.

Deriving an entirely different tone than what my reply asked of the original post

incredible reach. of course, maybe we are just hanging out w different type of guys

this addressing of a very undefined “you” in this post is doing some INCREDIBLE labor to conflate an ‘oversexed society,’ ‘temptation,’ and ‘shame’ to all be the work of a single vague source.

You are veering wildly between multiple scales of conflict, conflating individuals and industries and cultural norms in the process

I really don’t think 1) the people who are uncomfortable with people paying for someone to produce artificial, non-consensual p***ography of them, are 2) the same people ‘tempting’ others (whatever that means), nor 3) the people and/or industries contributing to an ‘oversexed society’

Oh no

like no f***ing way 😭😭

dude made awful decisions but it's not his fault somehow

Acknowledging the system we live in is not absolving him of fault, I’m simply saying to have empathy instead of virtue signaling, pointing your finger, and acting all holier-than-thou. The point is about whether shaming him and calling him a creep is helpful. I don’t think it is. Sure, he f***ed up interpersonally, and he has to deal with the fallout of that, but I think the degree to which certain people villainize him is strange to me.

This is either bad faith, or it’s wildly missed my point.

The whole post just confuses me, it feels like obfuscation. I’m not implying what you’re implying I am. But if you were genuinely confused by my statement, I will rewrite it to make those “you”s more clear.

A man is born into an incredibly oversexed society. He has temptation, both biological and through socialization, to jerk off to images that look like people he knows. It’s incredibly easy to do so, and, as far as this person knows, nobody will find out. From this reference, I don’t think it’s fair to shame him and call him a creep.

I understand why people are uncomfortable with people paying for someone to produce artificial p***. I think it creates a very morally complex space, where women are going to feel violated. However, my moral objections are more towards the people who make this p***. The watcher, in my view, is understandable, and makes sense to me, on the basis of human nature. I think there’s room for empathy for everyone in this situation.

Making deepfakes and selling them is gross. Being mad at that is beyond reasonable but tweets like this make zero sense . I know what she means but ???

doesnt she sell her farts to niggas

Just because someone can do something in private and expect not to be caught has nothing at all to do with whether or not its shameful. That's interesting logic. Some guys should think about managing their biology better I guess. As a guy this is maybe something I should be able to relate to, especially since its so biologically assured. But alas... I must not spend enough time on the internet.

That’s fair

This conversation on social media is getting into “thought policing” territory . Twitter is somehow becoming more cursed

Ayyyoooooo

Pretty sure she’s unequivocally 100% never done that lmfao

no?

Really? Wtf thats gross. How could she do that. Someone should report that. Is there a link? A link to the sale of the farts? Ewww nasty stuff. Like does she sell them in quarts? Pints? Gallons? How much is shipping? Gross ugh someone should ban her

Who am i thinking of

Theres a white girl twitch streamer that sells jarred farts to niggas

amouranth

they were $1000

how does it make no sense? creating deep fake p*** of someone is literally sexualizing them without consent and thats what happened what else is there to it?

this guy really never should’ve admitted/apologized for this. pokimane never talking to him again either way. all he managed to do was make the situation 100x bigger than it was.