Nov 19, 2025·1 reply
Dxtrwhosampled came out in 2008
Genius came out in 2009
but Genius itself became a known entity to casual listeners and had artists deciphering their lyrics and samples
Both sites have been falling apart and barely getting updated outside of big songs for the last few years
Nov 19, 2025
notbrockCan you really not understand how stupid this sounds?
“Why sample when you got FL studio”
Well the former is definitely more expensive for starters lol
- Nov 19, 2025csr
Both sites have been falling apart and barely getting updated outside of big songs for the last few years
That's true
Let's say Spotify came to Genius with a offer and they denied because Genius may have over estimated the market and on what their value actually is & but If Genius doesn't have the goal of hopefully being bought out or xyz, then i guess they can stay neutral
Nov 19, 2025·3 repliesDxtrwhosampled came out in 2008
Genius came out in 2009
but Genius itself became a known entity to casual listeners and had artists deciphering their lyrics and samples
Going from rap genius to genius lol
Loser ass move glad it’s failing
Nov 19, 2025·1 reply
PlatinumMan what are you even talking about
it can be a quicker way for them to train AI to find samples for their own benefits and to further limit you as a creative by essentially auto filtering your music out of the system due to their now even more expanded system designed to find your sample
- Nov 19, 2025LikewhoIsHe
Going from rap genius to genius lol
Loser ass move glad it’s failing
Honestly yeah
With a name change like that, you'd think they'd want to market to a larger audience to eventually sell but nah
Nov 19, 2025·1 reply
Smacked VoodooMind you, one of the people "leading the charge" on the "stop sample snitching" movement is some f***in white guy from Canada who has likened sample snitching to "gentrification"...
The lack of self-awareness is astounding to say the least.
I hear you but nah. The sample snitching rhetoric has been a strong movement in hip hop since they started sampling. I can’t say he’s exactly leading a movement that predates him. But I get what you mean since he’s so vocal
Nov 19, 2025·2 repliesPlatinumMan Fruity Loops is here. Premier and Q Tip grew up in a time where it was largely necessary; that time has now passed.
If today the millionaires Q Tip and Premier were stealing samples then thats dumb as hell
how is a rap fan saying this lmao
- Nov 19, 2025Valentine
it can be a quicker way for them to train AI to find samples for their own benefits and to further limit you as a creative by essentially auto filtering your music out of the system due to their now even more expanded system designed to find your sample
Rights holders (labels) care about finding samples for legal reasons, not content providers
Nov 19, 2025
MidzySeems they bought it for this. Pretty cool feature
https://artists.spotify.com/en/blog/spotlighting-the-people-connections-and-stories-behind-your-music
Song Credits are just the start. We’ll also be rolling out SongDNA, an interactive view that maps out connections between songs, showing collaborators, samples, and covers all in one place. Spotify Premium listeners will see it in the ‘Now Playing’ view as a new way to explore, dig deeper into how tracks are connected, and trace a song’s creative roots. Samples and covers in SongDNA are powered by WhoSampled, which is now part of Spotify. With WhoSampled’s community-built knowledge, fans can dive into the influences behind the music they love, while giving sampled and covered artists fresh ways to get discovered and celebrated.
Instant gratification era killing entertainment
- Nov 19, 2025·2 repliesnotmyfirst
how is a rap fan saying this lmao
Because I understand why sampling became a thing....
Im not against sampling in the modern day, im against sampling with out paying the person you are sampling. In the 80s and 90s there was justification. Not today.
This is very simple
- Nov 19, 2025·1 replynotmyfirst
how is a rap fan saying this lmao
Both are right imo.
One is saying back in the days it was easy to make a song with a sample and release it thru mixtapes and find a way to profit
Another is saying OG producers shouldn't have to play by the rules that in place of today. If you sample something and release it on DSP's without their approval and you make profit, the label and the artist is taking majority of the shares
e.g When Juicewrld used sting's instruments or w/e and okayplayer.com/sting-owns-85-percent-of-juice-wrlds-lucid-dreams-but-hes-not-mad-about-it/607723
- Nov 19, 2025·1 replyPlatinum
Because I understand why sampling became a thing....
Im not against sampling in the modern day, im against sampling with out paying the person you are sampling. In the 80s and 90s there was justification. Not today.
This is very simple
You don’t understand why sampling became a thing. You’re confusing DJing with making beats
Go ahead and google how much an SP1200, ASR or MPC was in the late 80s or 90s
- Nov 19, 2025Platinum
Because I understand why sampling became a thing....
Im not against sampling in the modern day, im against sampling with out paying the person you are sampling. In the 80s and 90s there was justification. Not today.
This is very simple
my bad I didnt read the context b4 my original post lmao I thought u were talking creatively like why sample if u got FL but nvm
not mad at people being compensated for getting sampled tho fs
Nov 19, 2025·1 replyDxtrBoth are right imo.
One is saying back in the days it was easy to make a song with a sample and release it thru mixtapes and find a way to profit
Another is saying OG producers shouldn't have to play by the rules that in place of today. If you sample something and release it on DSP's without their approval and you make profit, the label and the artist is taking majority of the shares
e.g When Juicewrld used sting's instruments or w/e and https://www.okayplayer.com/sting-owns-85-percent-of-juice-wrlds-lucid-dreams-but-hes-not-mad-about-it/607723
Dang but what if juice wrld didn’t know , lol that was nick miras fault
Nov 19, 2025LikewhoIsHeGoing from rap genius to genius lol
Loser ass move glad it’s failing
I still call it rap genius
- Nov 19, 2025·1 replynotbrock
Except it’s not
You’re basically telling all the OG producers to grow up. Imagine telling Premo or Q-Tip to grow up lmao
If a huge major label artist doesn’t clear a sample then yeah that’s on them but snitching on underground artists is lame as hell
Are you suggesting you should only snitch if the song blows up?
- Nov 19, 2025
tfw kanye didn’t clear the sample for I thought about killing you so they remade it and it sounds like ass.
I only listen to the OG version
- Nov 20, 2025SuperSaiyan
Dang but what if juice wrld didn’t know , lol that was nick miras fault
He didn't. It was during the era when music during that time freely sampled music and a year before in 2018 Lil Wayne released his last heavily sampled mixtape in Dedication 6. This was the cause of the evisceration of his dedication series
When that lawsuit happened, that was the death of freely sampling music on a global scale
- Nov 20, 2025·1 replySuperSaiyan
Are you suggesting you should only snitch if the song blows up?
That’s between the artist and the artist they sampled
If a song starts making serious money then yes I think you should work out a deal. Sting taking almost 90% of the profits from Lucid Dreams is absolutely ridiculous tho. That stream of money would not even exist without Juice and Nick
Nov 20, 2025
Dino“Get Spotify premium to listen to the full song”
gonna suck
Nov 20, 2025Smacked VoodooPretty much it's just saying what the sample of a song is.
People fear it'll alert labels that own the sample to get songs taken down.
Part of me understands the frustration that can bring because obviously good songs end up getting deleted or unable to be released. Another part of me also feels the artists who get sampled are deserving of their credit and hopefully get percentage.
Unfortunately, many of the nerds who are on that "anti-sample snitching" s*** hardly even think of the latter though. They really just be on some loser gatekeeping s*** and fear that other producers will do a better job flipping a sample than they did.
That’s a lame thing for them to complain about lol
Nov 20, 2025·2 repliesnotbrockExcept it’s not
You’re basically telling all the OG producers to grow up. Imagine telling Premo or Q-Tip to grow up lmao
If a huge major label artist doesn’t clear a sample then yeah that’s on them but snitching on underground artists is lame as hell
The OG producers were dealing with an entirely different set of circumstances than producers are today, plus we have decades of knowledge about copyright law and sampling laws at our fingertips that those early hip-hop didn’t have
I’m not against smaller artists releasing uncleared samples
All I’m saying is that if you’re doing that in 2025, you should be well aware of the risks that come with it
Sample snitching is not a real concept. If an artist is sampling obscure records, those records should be acknowledged
- Nov 20, 2025notbrock
You don’t understand why sampling became a thing. You’re confusing DJing with making beats
Go ahead and google how much an SP1200, ASR or MPC was in the late 80s or 90s
Yes it was DJing, which led to the sampling and created a culture of sampling - which is a good thing! Your technically correct but I dont think it really changes my point.
Also things like a studio renting out a SP1200 happened and also other cheaper samplers
- Nov 20, 2025·1 replySmacked Voodoo
Pretty much it's just saying what the sample of a song is.
People fear it'll alert labels that own the sample to get songs taken down.
Part of me understands the frustration that can bring because obviously good songs end up getting deleted or unable to be released. Another part of me also feels the artists who get sampled are deserving of their credit and hopefully get percentage.
Unfortunately, many of the nerds who are on that "anti-sample snitching" s*** hardly even think of the latter though. They really just be on some loser gatekeeping s*** and fear that other producers will do a better job flipping a sample than they did.
We can’t say that artists should get paid fairly for their work and then also say that sample snitching is a thing that shouldn’t happen
Those are oxymoronic statements
