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Aug 30, 2022·1 replykrishna boundtbf if you know anything about italian history, virtually everything bad the country has done was a result of north italy. southern italy may as well be a completely different country when it comes to discourse - the idea of a "united italy" was controversial even during the imperialist era. Despite the fact the country was "technically" united in the 1800s, southern italy wasn't really keen on it and there was discrimination against southerners with questions if they belonged to the wider continental ancestry (they literally called it "The Southern Question" lmfao). South Italy has always been closer to MENA or an ambigious middle-counrty (like Turkey) than anything. I mean it was almost completely Islamic (not just Sicily) until Northern Italians essentially re-conquered the region
First part is true
Second part not so much.
Southern Italy was rechristianised by Norman's in the 11th century. And the Islam was mostly sicily, the rest of South remained Christian for most part
Youre right fascism was a movement if the Northern wealthy, but the rest is off the mark
- Aug 30, 2022·2 repliesTragedyBerlusconi
First part is true
Second part not so much.
Southern Italy was rechristianised by Norman's in the 11th century. And the Islam was mostly sicily, the rest of South remained Christian for most part
Youre right fascism was a movement if the Northern wealthy, but the rest is off the mark
It's not just Sicily, Sardinia was also islamic (albeit, sure, that's not technically southern). The pennisula of the Tyrrhenian Sea south of Naples was also temporarily Islamic. I'm not really saying Southern Italy was almost an islamic country, but rather even native Italians considered Southern Italy culturally and even ethnically disparate, and even when Northern Italians began to align themselves to Europeans, Southern Italy was still questioned in that regard domestically. The history of southern italy vs northern italy far more resembles even a country like lebanon than it does northern italy which more closely resembles traditional european history otherwise.
- Aug 30, 2022·2 replieskrishna bound
It's not just Sicily, Sardinia was also islamic (albeit, sure, that's not technically southern). The pennisula of the Tyrrhenian Sea south of Naples was also temporarily Islamic. I'm not really saying Southern Italy was almost an islamic country, but rather even native Italians considered Southern Italy culturally and even ethnically disparate, and even when Northern Italians began to align themselves to Europeans, Southern Italy was still questioned in that regard domestically. The history of southern italy vs northern italy far more resembles even a country like lebanon than it does northern italy which more closely resembles traditional european history otherwise.
Oh yeah this is true
Either way our beautiful peninsula is united now and may it last until the Mediterranean closes
- Aug 30, 2022·2 repliesTragedyBerlusconi
Oh yeah this is true
Either way our beautiful peninsula is united now and may it last until the Mediterranean closes
- Aug 30, 2022·1 replyTragedyBerlusconi
Oh yeah this is true
Either way our beautiful peninsula is united now and may it last until the Mediterranean closes
Sicilian Separatism been making a come back over the last decade
- Aug 30, 2022·1 replykrishna bound
Sicilian Separatism been making a come back over the last decade
It's never been that strong a movement compared to Northern separatism
- Aug 30, 2022TragedyBerlusconi
It's never been that strong a movement compared to Northern separatism
not wrong but it definitely exists, i know SV got like 15% or something in a recent poll
- Aug 30, 2022SEGA GOON
- Aug 30, 2022·1 replykrishna bound
tbf if you know anything about italian history, virtually everything bad the country has done was a result of north italy. southern italy may as well be a completely different country when it comes to discourse - the idea of a "united italy" was controversial even during the imperialist era. Despite the fact the country was "technically" united in the 1800s, southern italy wasn't really keen on it and there was discrimination against southerners with questions if they belonged to the wider continental ancestry (they literally called it "The Southern Question" lmfao). South Italy has always been closer to MENA or an ambigious middle-counrty (like Turkey) than anything. I mean it was almost completely Islamic (not just Sicily) until Northern Italians essentially re-conquered the region
A opp is a opp f*** Italians
- Aug 30, 2022·1 replySepah
A opp is a opp f*** Italians
Are you Ethiopian, Libyan or somali?
- Aug 30, 2022·2 repliesTragedyBerlusconi
Are you Ethiopian, Libyan or somali?
Libyan/Palestinian
- Aug 30, 2022
- Aug 30, 2022·1 replySepah
Libyan/Palestinian
what do you think of Turkey
- Aug 30, 2022·2 replies
Shut the f*** up
Aug 30, 2022americanaShut the f*** up
- Aug 30, 2022·1 replykrishna bound
what do you think of Turkey
Foreign meddlers and imperialist who wish to take advantage of Libya and other Arab states. They must be expelled from our nations by any means necessary.
- Aug 30, 2022·2 repliesSepah
Foreign meddlers and imperialist who wish to take advantage of Libya and other Arab states. They must be expelled from our nations by any means necessary.
yeah basically not wrong lol
- Aug 30, 2022krishna bound
yeah basically not wrong lol
I can not go into a rant I’d get in trouble
- Aug 30, 2022·1 replykrishna bound
yeah basically not wrong lol
Also Zionists who use Islam as a facade to draw support. This is evidenced by the Zionist entity and Turkey having relations.
- Aug 30, 2022Sepah
Also Zionists who use Islam as a facade to draw support. This is evidenced by the Zionist entity and Turkey having relations.
eh i don't know if i'd say that. they're more just geopolitical allies than anything. islam is just used as a populist tool in turkey (you probably know this too, but do NOT call turkey an islamic country or imply ataturk was jewish or a zionist in the country itself lmao). for example they both have mutual regional strategies in Syria & Iraq. Also somewhat in terms of Iran.
Turkey, especially modern Turkey, only basically cares about Israel insofar as having Israel there allows Turkey to pursue its statebuilding ambitions. Erdogan continually calls Israel a terror state rhetorically/condemns them for palestinian treatment (example: reuters.com/world/middle-east/turkey-accuses-israel-terror-over-palestinian-clashes-al-aqsa-2021-05-08), it's just again mostly rhetorical, It's basically the same with Azerbaijan, which is far closer to an islamic nation than turkey, the two just support it for geopolitical reasons, Azerbaijinis aren't zionists. Geopolitical support doesn't automatically equate to zionism, all these countries have ulterior/wider motives, they don't actually care intrinsically about an israeli state