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  • Jul 27, 2022
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    People think third world leftists are much more radical than they are tbh. They're definetely more radical than western leftists for a variety of reasons, but the default worldwide is still social democracy.

  • Jul 27, 2022
    the reds

    People think third world leftists are much more radical than they are tbh. They're definetely more radical than western leftists for a variety of reasons, but the default worldwide is still social democracy.

    TragedyB won

  • Jul 27, 2022
    the reds

    People think third world leftists are much more radical than they are tbh. They're definetely more radical than western leftists for a variety of reasons, but the default worldwide is still social democracy.

    "They're definitely more radical than western leftists "

    all i need to hear

  • Jul 27, 2022

    "Mom I just got admitted to study abroad in Korea!"
    "Omg son I'm so proud of you! Where did you apply?"

  • Jul 27, 2022
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    the reds

    Reading that Trump axios piece and if Trump wins in 2024 it might literally start the balkanization of the US

    :word:

  • Jul 27, 2022
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    the reds

    :word:

    https://twitter.com/therecount/status/1552030938271518721

    is voting for trump praxis?

  • Jul 27, 2022
    Womanpuncher69

    is voting for trump praxis?

    Guy like me im worried about doing s***postxis

  • Jul 27, 2022
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    Political compass said I’m libertarian left, never heard of this

  • Jul 27, 2022
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    Josk2

    Political compass said I’m libertarian left, never heard of this

    Political compass kinda trash

    Basically just means you're left wing and don't hatr gay people

  • Jul 27, 2022

    Not the term itself but the results

    I get that too

  • Jul 27, 2022

    UN resolutions be like yo we should do good thing every sane person agrees on

    2929384 votes in favor US + Israel votes against

  • Jul 27, 2022
    Josk2

    Political compass said I’m libertarian left, never heard of this

    Means you probably lean towards Anarchism ktt2.com/anarchism-thread-24543

  • Jul 27, 2022
    Scratchin Mamba

    Political compass kinda trash

    Basically just means you're left wing and don't hatr gay people

    i just did it again and got lib left and i’m out here criticizing Stalin for not being more authoritative !

  • Jul 27, 2022
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    Rambling post

    I know I'd fall on the far left of the political spectrum but idk where if we were to get more detailed. If you asked me how I view the world i would say Marxism, World Systems Theory, and Long Duree History help me understand it. I could tell you what left tendencies I'm against: Anarchism because it's a utopian dead end, Social Democracy because it's hardwired to maintain Capitalism, Stalinism because it's a compromise which midwifes Capitalism, Market Socialism because its just Capitalism, etc. I haven't read enough Trotsky or other Ultra leftists (I think Trotsky is considered an ultra) to say for sure but I think I mostly agree with their diagnoses of the rightward turn of most socialist projects. But I think that's all they can really offer because I think their degeneration was overdetermined and "if only they had just done X" sounds idealistic to me idk.

    Maybe I'm overlooking agency too much but in my mind what determines the outcome of a revolution is ultimately the result of class composition, technology available, the international situation, etc. over the long term. So maybe the French could've done a kind of pre-industrial Socialism in the 1790s but the fact it turned out the way it did makes more sense to me.

    I think the USSR dissolving was a bad thing but not because it ended a socialist project, I think that ended a long time ago and if it had continued it would probably look a lot like modern China. The reason I think it was a bad event is because what followed was shock implementation of capitalism and end of trade privileges to places like Cuba and North Korea. These privileges along with all the good that was still left within ther USSR would've been slowly phased out instead to minimize suffering like in China.

    I haven't read enough Mao to get a good grip on his theory like Lenin but I think the Cultural Revolution should have succeeded at its goal, which I understand as taking the wheel back from a state and party apparatus steering China towards Capitalism but the fact that Mao nipped it in the bud and material conditions (im assuming, idk) means we got modern China instead.

    When I talk about this to other ppl online they usually say it's too pessimistic to view all these project as overdetermined to fail in giving us Communism and I kinda agree it puts you in a doomer mentality. If I'd been in Moscow or Beijing I'd have assumed we could still do it and moved off that assumption. There's always contingencies and we never know when the world will be "materially ready for Communism".

  • Jul 27, 2022

    That debate bro hypothetical finally happened irl

  • Jul 27, 2022

    Mike Davis got terminal cancer bro

  • Jul 27, 2022
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    Lein

    Rambling post

    I know I'd fall on the far left of the political spectrum but idk where if we were to get more detailed. If you asked me how I view the world i would say Marxism, World Systems Theory, and Long Duree History help me understand it. I could tell you what left tendencies I'm against: Anarchism because it's a utopian dead end, Social Democracy because it's hardwired to maintain Capitalism, Stalinism because it's a compromise which midwifes Capitalism, Market Socialism because its just Capitalism, etc. I haven't read enough Trotsky or other Ultra leftists (I think Trotsky is considered an ultra) to say for sure but I think I mostly agree with their diagnoses of the rightward turn of most socialist projects. But I think that's all they can really offer because I think their degeneration was overdetermined and "if only they had just done X" sounds idealistic to me idk.

    Maybe I'm overlooking agency too much but in my mind what determines the outcome of a revolution is ultimately the result of class composition, technology available, the international situation, etc. over the long term. So maybe the French could've done a kind of pre-industrial Socialism in the 1790s but the fact it turned out the way it did makes more sense to me.

    I think the USSR dissolving was a bad thing but not because it ended a socialist project, I think that ended a long time ago and if it had continued it would probably look a lot like modern China. The reason I think it was a bad event is because what followed was shock implementation of capitalism and end of trade privileges to places like Cuba and North Korea. These privileges along with all the good that was still left within ther USSR would've been slowly phased out instead to minimize suffering like in China.

    I haven't read enough Mao to get a good grip on his theory like Lenin but I think the Cultural Revolution should have succeeded at its goal, which I understand as taking the wheel back from a state and party apparatus steering China towards Capitalism but the fact that Mao nipped it in the bud and material conditions (im assuming, idk) means we got modern China instead.

    When I talk about this to other ppl online they usually say it's too pessimistic to view all these project as overdetermined to fail in giving us Communism and I kinda agree it puts you in a doomer mentality. If I'd been in Moscow or Beijing I'd have assumed we could still do it and moved off that assumption. There's always contingencies and we never know when the world will be "materially ready for Communism".

    What do you consider Stalinism? Just Stalin's rule? Or in the way Trotskyists use it, basically any socialist country with positive relations with the USSR lol

  • Jul 27, 2022
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    Scratchin Mamba

    What do you consider Stalinism? Just Stalin's rule? Or in the way Trotskyists use it, basically any socialist country with positive relations with the USSR lol

    Dictatorship of the bureaucracy in a socialist nation state.

  • Jul 27, 2022
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    Lein

    Dictatorship of the bureaucracy in a socialist nation state.

    Well which examples throughout history do you see fit that description?

  • Jul 27, 2022

    I don't care about the planet 😏
    living conditions on said planet worsen
    Whoa do yall notice how s***ty things are lately? I think there's a conspiracy behind this

  • Jul 27, 2022
    Scratchin Mamba

    Well which examples throughout history do you see fit that description?

    Well the USSR before market reforms prolly the best example, China before the Cultural Revolution, North Korea

  • Jul 27, 2022

    Giving yourself anxiety is peak liberal activism

  • Jul 27, 2022

    What the US did in the Korean war has to be the most cruel and destructive war post WW2, that s*** is mindblowing fr. And nobody ever really talks about it

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    the cursed radio free europe watermark on the first pic 🤢