f***ing privileged meat eaters man smfh

U rly tryna say meat eaters are privileged now

Source?

This isn't because of meat though, it's the fault of the conditions that require them to prioritize production over their own well being. It's starving children in places where the money goes towards rakes and fertilizer for veggies instead of feeding people too

Ede, Sharon. "The Bomb is Still Ticking...". Post growth: From bigger towards better. November 2010 Smil, Vaclav. "Harvesting the Biosphere: The Human Impact". Population and Development Review 37 (4): 613-636 (December 2011)

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literally yes

First sentence is my opinion. Don't have a source for the second, but could just as well talk about any system where money goes toward production at the expense of health. Your meat example is just one instance of that

That's absolutely not true wtf

Yea bro these subsistance farmers so privileged bc they not eating vegan cheese

Use ur common sense bro pls

obviously i aint s***ting on those types you meatball

s***ting on ppl who buy from a grocer which is 90%+. first world type idiots

okay cool

I mean if we talking the whole world in most countries poor people don’t eat meat

It's not 90% people from the first world who buy meat from grocery stores bro what

And even in the first world it's definitely more common for people who are wealthier to be vegan than people who are poor

There are plenty of reasons and ways to advocate for veganism but calling all meat eaters privileged is not it and sounds extremely out of touch

That's not true lol this isn't ancient egypt poor people eat meat too and they eat it everywhere unless u put the poverty line ridiculously low

this just america so take that for what it is

Some 62% of American shoppers buy their meat at supermarkets; 23% buy at a multi-product hypermarket, such as Walmart; 7% buy at a wholesale-oriented club store such as Costco; 5% at a butcher's shop; and 3% at organic or speciality stores.

foodnavigator-usa.com/Article/2014/12/18/A-focus-on-the-retail-meat-market-in-the-USA#:~:text=Some%2062%25%20of%20American%20shoppers,at%20organic%20or%20speciality%20stores.

And yeah it's rich mfs in the first world who have the time to learn about this s*** and make changes. ppl in poverty just barsly scraping by and we ain't even speaking on the culture surrounding meat in many countries. it's hard to break free from that programming especially if you hardly paying rent, those ppl ain't got the time of energy to make changes like this smh

yeah and they do it because it's a sign of power and prosperity. it's been f***ing fetishized by the west to eat a f*** ton of meat

food ethics debates are cool but can we talk about how over the past like several weeks there's been massive destructions of like legit every major food processing plant in the US like one after another, and it's like virtually all plants which happen to deal with organic foods

4/21 - "unidentified plane" crashes into idaho potato plant
idahostatesman.com/news/nation-world/national/article260423897.html

4/19 - fire destroys azure standard hq (biggest organic distributor in the US)
columbiagorgenews.com/news/fire-destroys-azure-standard-headquarter-facility/article_7df4657c-c03e-11ec-a8c2-5f88e266c6db.html

4/14 - fire at salinas food processing plant
abc7news.com/taylor-farms-fire-salinas-evacuation-shelter-in-place-california-ammonia-explosion-risk/11747214

4/12 - 16 hour fire at conway beef & pork plant in NH
wmur.com/article/crews-battled-fire-16-hours-conway-new-hampshire-41222/39707759?utm_campaign=snd-autopilot

4/1 - fire at fresh onion packing plant in south texas
producebluebook.com/2022/04/01/rio-freshs-onion-warehouse-damaged-in-fire/#

this isn't even all of them there's been like 2-4 of these a week since mid-february

Changing your diet in the first world doesn't really change your privilege. Being deprived of something is austerity, sure, but the third world is deprived of a lot of more essential things than hamburger. Americans are pretty much killing themselves with red meat. It's often a sign of wealth or well-being to be able to curate your diet so perfectly.

First world veganism and vegetarianism is like a personal moral or health or virtue signaling action but it's not a politic. I will say when faiths have dietary restrictions that is kind of a binding mechanism. Unfortunately there's no political institution with that pull in America championing veganism. Maybe if you get a socialist movement off the ground with a tenant of veganism that would be something.

Otherwise you're pretending your consumerism is politics and that's cope

I mean compared to the local upper classes or richer countries, not saying they plantscore vegans

Even in europe like 40 years ago lower classes would eat meat like once or twice a week

My point is that people in poorer countries also buy meat from grocery stores or markets and it's not just the elites that do so

And yeah there's an obvious economic obstacle to worry about food ethics for people who are barely making ends meet

the commodification of a life is some hyper imperialist s*** and it blows me away how hard some of y'all cap for it

That's fs partly true but definitely not all, people from non-western countries have their own culturally informed views on meat consumption and they were definitely not all products of colonialism

the known hyper-imperialists of asia

I mean it might not be done as frequently, but they def eat tho lol